[Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:29:19 -0400


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well I give you a hint, I just swap out the system from under us :-) =
work on phase 2 :-) I see what I can do, right now I want to finsh =
version 2 of the list. lot of cute fetures coming :-)

It not hard to find people, just have to want to look. unless you want =
to live in the third world, use only cash and never get near a goverment =
or a newpaper you will be found. Now the question is does anyone care to =
find you :-)


MJM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Sandberg=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


  Michael,

  Well, all of your solutions seem to be working pretty well so far. =
Certainly no need to rush, we have been without most of this for years =
and have managed to live with it somehow. :-) :-) Maybe, after your =
emergency is over and you've got a chance to rest up a little the ideas =
will come easier. But yeah, the form idea sounds like a good one. Those =
that are brave can go ahead and fill it out and those that ain't so =
brave can sit around by themselves and have no one to go sailing with =
:-) :-) :-)=20

  Heck, when you get right down to it, I bet I could find out where most =
of these folks are at anyway, whether they're on a list or not. And I =
don't think too many people would mistake me for a computer hacker.

  Rik


  At 02:00 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

    the best bet would be a "form" that people could fill out, it thier =
choise to "opt in", it is a programming job, best bet would be php and a =
mysql for the database(both are load here). Both are to advanced for a =
"non programmer", I am sitting trying to think of a idea, problem is the =
brain is fried and nothing is coming ;-)
    =20
    MJM=20
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Rik Sandberg=20
      To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:45 AM=20
      Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


      Michael,


      I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 =
owners might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they =
hadn't been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular =
area, it would sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get =
in touch. I know everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail =
address is already out there for anyone to look at if they want to and =
my name and address is in the phone book for everyone that's interested =
to see. I don't see where having a little personal info on our web site =
would really open me up to any security problems that I'm not already =
open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (members only) I =
don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you think???? Doubt =
I could be much help in designing it though.


      Rik




      At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
        I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill work =
on a "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the verion =
2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right now.=20
        =20
        www.rhodes22.org could always use something. Any Ideas that you =
might want to see thier?=20
        =20
        MJM=20
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Rik Sandberg=20
        To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
        Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
        Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


        Michael,


        Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put =
it mildly


        Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd =
like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to =
take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs attention.


        Rik






        At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
          "It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but thier =
are other services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I been =
cutting production machines over all day. doing the more crictial one =
tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind of =
borring.=20
          MJM=20
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Rik Sandberg=20
          To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
          Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
          Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


          Michael,


          Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich =
that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the =
president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.


          Hope you get it all straightened out OK


          Rik










          At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was of =
a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the world. =

            MJM=20
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Rik Sandberg=20
            To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
            Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
            Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
            Michael,


            Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from =
McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this =
time of night.


            Rik


















            At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the same =
thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is a =
real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is no problem with the =
list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to secure =
privacy on the web. The hole is big enough that the machine can be taken =
over which is very very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a =
security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it as =
a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)=20
              MJM=20
               ----- Original Message -----=20
              From: Rik Sandberg=20
              To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
              Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
              Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


              Thanks Michael,


              Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? notice =
that there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never seen that =
done before. :-) :-)


              Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda tired of =
never having a clue what the heck was going on.


              Rik


































































              At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                Looks like throes group screwed the pooch =
again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking place =
right now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this machine right =
now and the packages that they link to, security upgrade before the =
script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 =
minutes outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, =
no member need to due anything, just a heads up.=20
                MJM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>well I give you a hint, I just swap out =
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want to=20
finsh version 2 of the list. lot of cute fetures coming :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It not hard to find people, just have =
to want to=20
look. unless you want to live in the third world, use only cash and =
never get=20
near a goverment or a newpaper you will be found. Now the question is =
does=20
anyone care to find you :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dracerrik@rea-alp.com =
href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik=20
  Sandberg</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
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href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 01, 2002 =
2:22=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Headup, list=20
  admin</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Michael,<BR><BR>Well, all of your solutions seem to be =
working=20
  pretty well so far. Certainly no need to rush, we have been without =
most of=20
  this for years and have managed to live with it somehow. :-) :-) =
Maybe, after=20
  your emergency is over and you've got a chance to rest up a little the =
ideas=20
  will come easier. But yeah, the form idea sounds like a good one. =
Those that=20
  are brave can go ahead and fill it out and those that ain't so brave =
can sit=20
  around by themselves and have no one to go sailing with :-) :-) :-)=20
  <BR><BR>Heck, when you get right down to it, I bet I could find out =
where most=20
  of these folks are at anyway, whether they're on a list or not. And I =
don't=20
  think too many people would mistake me for a computer=20
  hacker.<BR><BR>Rik<BR><BR><BR>At 02:00 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you =
wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>the best=20
    bet would be a "form" that people could fill out, it thier choise to =
"opt=20
    in", it is a programming job, best bet would be php and a mysql for =
the=20
    database(both are load here). Both are to advanced for a "non =
programmer", I=20
    am sitting trying to think of a idea, problem is the brain is fried =
and=20
    nothing is coming ;-)</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>MJM</FONT>=20

    <DL>
      <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
      <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
      <DD>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
      <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:45 AM=20
      <DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
      <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
      <DD>I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 =
owners=20
      might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they =
hadn't been=20
      to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular area, =
it would=20
      sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get in touch. =
I know=20
      everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail address is =
already out=20
      there for anyone to look at if they want to and my name and =
address is in=20
      the phone book for everyone that's interested to see. I don't see =
where=20
      having a little personal info on our web site would really open me =
up to=20
      any security problems that I'm not already open for. And, if we =
used our=20
      passwords for access (members only) I don't see where it could =
really do=20
      any harm. What do you think???? Doubt I could be much help in =
designing it=20
      though.<BR><BR>
      <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
      <DD>At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
        <DD>I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill =
work on a=20
        "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the =
verion 2 of=20
        the list, but that it mosly programming right now. </FONT>
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD><A href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org">www.rhodes22.org</A> =
could always=20
        use something. Any Ideas that you might want to see =
thier?</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
        <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
        <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
        <DD>To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
        <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
        <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
        <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
        <DD>Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to =
put it=20
        mildly<BR><BR>
        <DD>Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else =
you'd like=20
        to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy =
to take=20
        on some more stuff, if there is something that needs =
attention.<BR><BR>
        <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
          <DD>"It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but =
thier are=20
          other services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I =
been=20
          cutting production machines over all day. doing the more =
crictial one=20
          tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, =
kind of=20
          borring.</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
          <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
          <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
          <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
          <DD>To: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

          <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
          <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
          <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
          <DD>Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy =
rich that=20
          way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by =
the=20
          president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.<BR><BR>
          <DD>Hope you get it all straightened out OK<BR><BR>
          <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
          <DD>At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
          <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
            <DD>NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was =
of a=20
            mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in =
the=20
            world.=20
            <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
            <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
            <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
            <DD>To: <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

            <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
            <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
            <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
            <DD>Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something =
from McAfee=20
            a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at =
this time=20
            of night.<BR><BR>
            =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR>
            <DD>At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>
              <DD>It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the =
same thing=20
              tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every body. this =
is a=20
              real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is no =
problem=20
              with the list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs =
that is=20
              used to secure privacy on the web. The hole is big enough =
that the=20
              machine can be taken over which is very very bad, =
extremity when=20
              you consider that SSL is a security package in it self. =
This is=20
              preventive medicine, thing of it as a condom before =
someone try to=20
              give us the clap :-)</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
              <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
              <DD>&nbsp;----- Original Message -----=20
              <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
              <DD>To: <A=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

              <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
              <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list =
admin<BR><BR>
              <DD>Thanks Michael,<BR><BR>
              <DD>Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? =
notice that=20
              there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never =
seen=20
              that done before. :-) :-)<BR><BR>
              <DD>Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda =
tired of=20
              never having a clue what the heck was going on.<BR><BR>
              =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>=
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
              <DD>At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                size=3D2>
                <DD>Looks like throes group screwed the pooch =
again(openssl), I=20
                have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking place =
right now,=20
                The SSL libraries are being replaced on this machine =
right now=20
                and the packages that they link to, security upgrade =
before the=20
                script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 =
with=20
                about a 15 minutes outage as the machine is boot in to =
the new=20
                kernel and packages, no member need to due anything, =
just a=20
                heads up.</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
                =
<DD>MJM</FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD>=
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