[Rhodes22-list] R-22 PHRF
Bill Effros
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:29:52 -0400
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Roger,
Even though I am a pleased IMF owner who doesn't give a fig about tuning =
my own boat for maximum performance, I was fascinated by the rig tuning =
discussion and found it interesting and useful. Thanks to all who =
participated.
Michael made a comment a while ago about how much better the boat sails =
once you learn how to use it. I think about his remark every time I =
read something written by someone who just doesn't know how to rig the =
boat. Discussions like this help everyone. The give and take allow the =
unknowledgeable to better understand the issues.
A couple of years ago we had a long discussion about PHRF ratings (a =
handicapping system that allows different types of boats to race against =
each other, so that the skill of the crew and not the inherent speed of =
the design is the determining factor). The higher the PHRF, the slower =
the historical speed of the boat in racing conditions.
J boats have very low PHRF numbers both because they are inherently very =
fast, and because people who do give a fig about such things tend to buy =
and race them, thereby driving their numbers lower and lower as the =
skill level of the fleet increases.
Rhodes 22 owners, as a group, are more interested in comfort than speed. =
As a consequence, we get relatively high PHRF numbers when we enter =
racing fleets--I believe you once mentioned a normal range of 258-312. =
You also mentioned that because of the way you tuned your rig, and your =
ability to sail your boat, (you kept winning with higher PHRF ratings) =
your fleet lowered your rating to 234. You said you could still win at =
this rating, but only under certain circumstances, and if you really =
sailed well. That is the goal of PHRF racing.
It also provides both a benchmark and a racing opportunity for other =
R-22 owners. Anyone with an R-22 PHRF rating in the normal range has a =
boat capable of winning every race. Discussions like this one let =
people know that if any boat with a PHRF rating greater than 234 seems =
to be sailing better than their Rhodes 22 the fault lies with them, and =
not with their equipment.
This is useful knowledge whether or not one ever decides to purchase a =
Loos gauge.
Bill Effros
BTW Slim--S/V Little Queenie
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Roger Pihlaja=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tune The Rig Any Way You Wish
Richard,
The world will little note nor long remember how any of us tune the =
standing rigging on our toys. I was only responding to Toad's question =
re rig tuning & your follow-up queries. You are absolutely correct, =
most of the list doesn't give a fig how to tune the rigging for maximum =
performance. If you don't care, then I don't care; tune your rigging =
however you like. Fair winds to you, sir.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Even though I am a pleased IMF owner who doesn't =
give a=20
fig about tuning my own boat for maximum performance, I was fascinated =
by the=20
rig tuning discussion and found it interesting and useful. Thanks =
to all=20
who participated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Michael made a comment a while ago about how =
much better=20
the boat sails once you learn how to use it. I think about his =
remark=20
every time I read something written by someone who just doesn't know how =
to rig=20
the boat. Discussions like this help everyone. The give and =
take=20
allow the unknowledgeable to better understand the issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A couple of years ago we had a long discussion =
about PHRF=20
ratings (a handicapping system that allows different types of boats to =
race=20
against each other, so that the skill of the crew and not the inherent =
speed of=20
the design is the determining factor). The higher the PHRF, the =
slower the=20
historical speed of the boat in racing conditions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>J boats have very low PHRF numbers both because =
they are=20
inherently very fast, and because people who do give a fig about such =
things=20
tend to buy and race them, thereby driving their numbers lower and lower =
as the=20
skill level of the fleet increases.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Rhodes 22 owners, as a group, are more =
interested in=20
comfort than speed. As a consequence, we get relatively high PHRF =
numbers=20
when we enter racing fleets--I believe you once mentioned a normal range =
of=20
258-312. You also mentioned that because of the way you tuned your =
rig,=20
and your ability to sail your boat, (you kept winning with higher PHRF=20
ratings) your fleet lowered your rating to 234. You said you =
could=20
still win at this rating, but only under certain circumstances, and if =
you=20
really sailed well. That is the goal of PHRF =
racing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>It also provides both a benchmark and a =
racing=20
opportunity for other R-22 owners. Anyone with an =
R-22 PHRF=20
rating in the normal range has a boat capable of =
winning every=20
race. Discussions like this one let people know that if any boat =
with a=20
PHRF rating greater than 234 seems to be sailing better than their =
Rhodes=20
22 the fault lies with them, and not with their equipment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This is useful knowledge whether or not one ever =
decides=20
to purchase a Loos gauge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Bill Effros</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>BTW Slim--S/V Little Queenie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:cen09402@centurytel.net">Roger=20
Pihlaja</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:11 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Rhodes22-list] Tune The Rig Any Way You =
Wish</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The world will little note nor long =
remember how=20
any of us tune the standing rigging on our toys. I was only =
responding to=20
Toad's question re rig tuning & your follow-up queries. You =
are=20
absolutely correct, most of the list doesn't give a fig how to tune the =
rigging=20
for maximum performance. If you don't care, then I don't care; =
tune your=20
rigging however you like. Fair winds to you, sir.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic =
Equilibrium</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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