[Rhodes22-list] UPS Revisited

[Mary Lou Troy]

Jay,
Just got back from the boat. We are still mulling the advantages of this 
sail as well.

Tom will have to answer about singlehanding though it strikes me that you 
could set the sail before leaving the dock and just never use the genoa. I 
think in an earlier email Tom said you could just drop it on deck and 
unfurl the genny. I'm still not clear about where the sheets go. Tom? do 
they use the same fairleads to the winch that you use with the genoa? If 
you are planning on using both sails, there are clearly some sheet 
management issues that I don't fully understand here.

We are still considering whether this sail needs to be on a furler. It 
occurred to me that you might be able to rig it with a tack pennant led 
through a block at the padeye aft of the forestay back to the mast and set 
it and take it down from the mast without having to go out on the foredeck.

I am intrigued by Rik's idea of a storm jib on its own luff rope that would 
use the same padeye and halyard.

Stan any thoughts on padeye installation?

Doug Gardner, Tom said you had a picture of the padeye?

At the show, Doyle quoted us $575 for this sail without the furler and $325 
more for the furler. There was an additional discount if we ordered at the 
show which of course we didn't. The sail Doyle quoted was 1.5 oz. nylon and 
200 sq. ft. which if I remember correctly is the same area as the 175 
genoa. I think I want one in red, white and blue.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA




At 10:24 AM 10/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Tom, Mary Lou, et al-
>
>After the early postings on Doyle's UPS (Utility Power Sail), it came more
>to light in discussions at Annapolis. The rigging, storage and use seemed
>easy enough on first glance, and the benefits got better the more we
>discussed it. Is it for my needs?
>
>My main goal is to get an easier method of single-handing downwind. I have
>the whiskerpole and set-up for my 155% gennie, but it seem impossible to set
>while staying on course with tiller tamer or any tiller lock. Rob Baldi, aka
>MOSES, has an asymetrical spin that has 5 lines and needs at least 2-3
>bodies to set, although it can be simplified without guy lines and chute.
>We're going the wrong way with these downwind solutions.
>
>Mary Lou, I thought you felt it could be set prior to leaving the dock, but
>how do tack with the gennie forward of this extra forestay/furler? Where do
>the two sets of sheets go?
>
>Doyle said many users combine the UPS with the gennie for wing on wing after
>dropping the main, and for IMF users this is ideal.
>
>Any thoughts, because the potential seems to be there. Stan felt if there
>was a strong enough need, he could make it available to us through Doyle
>more economically.
>
>Jay
>
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