[Rhodes22-list] Bahamas
Rik Sandberg
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:26:57 -0500
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J.C.
I know there is somebody that has sailed their R 22 to the Bahamas, just
can't remember who it was.
I'm sure that Roger is probably right on the money with his advice in that
prior post. But.....there's always one of them buts, eh?......after all of
that, there are these people who apparently do the crossing regularly, in a
15 foot boat. http://www.microcruising.com/ and this guy who did the
crossing with 2 other people and a dog, in a WWPotter 19. (a little crowded
for me thank you)
http://potter-yachters.org/stories/bahamas/index.html
I don't know, is a WWPotter that much more seaworthy than an R 22??? One
thing I'm sure most knowledgeable ocean sailing people would bring up is
the large size of the R 22 cockpit. Most boats that are considered good sea
boats have a cockpit that will hold a far lesser volume of water than an R 22.
Is there some mention of this trip on the R 22 (GB) web site??
Rik
At 07:46 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>The answer is "yes" but the question remains if this is a good idea.
>
>Here is Roger's response to the idea from 2 years ago:
>
>Just a data point, for whatever it's worth. Last winter, I crewed aboard a
>36 foot, center cockpit, ketch on a delivery cruise from Florida to the
>Bahamas. Most sailboats we encountered in the Bahamas were 36 feet long or
>bigger. However, there was this one fellow we met. He was anchored at
>Nassau. His 24 foot sloop had jerry cans & other stuff lashed everywhere on
>deck. He was singlehanding & still the boat looked CRAMMED!
>
>I've made three Florida/Bahamas Gulf Stream crossings in sailboats. One of
>these crossings was one of my worst experiences at sea & well beyond what
>you'd ever want to attempt in a Rhodes 22. But, the other two were at the
>upper limit of the Rhodes 22's performance envelope. I have several
>suggestions before you try this however:
>
>1. If your Rhodes 22 has the bow anchor chain hawse pipe, then find a way to
>plug
> the opening or you may take a lot of water down below.
>
>2. Add some foam weather stripping to the underside of the pop top & rig up
>a
> means of securing the pop top down to keep your foam "gasket" in
>compression.
> A company called DeStaco makes a wide variety of dogging clamps that
>could
> be used for this purpose.
>
>3. Before you leave, make several 1/2" thick plywood cutouts in the shape of
>your
> ports, both fixed & opening. Glue a rubber gasket to one side of each
>of them &
> drill matching holes thru them. These plywood pieces will be used in
>pairs, one
> inside & one outside & thru bolted, to plug a port which gets blown out
>at sea.
>
>4. No matter how you do it, the Gulf Stream crossing will be a very long
>day.
> The weather will be absolutely crucial. Consider leaving in the middle
>of the
> night to give yourself as much daylight as possible on the other end.
>Consider
> taking on an extra crew member for this leg of the trip to relieve you.
>Consider
> installing a tiller pilot. I have an AutoHelm ST1000+ & it steers our
>Rhodes 22
> very well.
>
>5. Get yourself a good safety harness & install solid anchor points &
>jacklines
> on your Rhodes 22.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:joscook@msn.com>J Cook
>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:03 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bahamas
>
>
>Has anybody here sailed an R22 to the Bahamas?
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J.C.<br><br>
I know there is somebody that has sailed their R 22 to the Bahamas, just
can't remember who it was.<br><br>
I'm sure that Roger is probably right on the money with his advice in
that prior post. But.....there's always one of them buts, eh?......after
all of that, there are these people who apparently do the crossing
regularly, in a 15 foot boat.
<a href="http://www.microcruising.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.microcruising.com/</a>
and this guy who did the crossing with 2 other people and a dog, in a
WWPotter 19. (a little crowded for me thank you)<br>
<a href="http://potter-yachters.org/stories/bahamas/index.html" eudora="autourl">http://potter-yachters.org/stories/bahamas/index.html</a>
<br><br>
I don't know, is a WWPotter that much more seaworthy than an R 22??? One
thing I'm sure most knowledgeable ocean sailing people would bring up is
the large size of the R 22 cockpit. Most boats that are considered good
sea boats have a cockpit that will hold a far lesser volume of water than
an R 22.<br><br>
Is there some mention of this trip on the R 22 (GB) web site??<br><br>
Rik<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
At 07:46 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Times New Roman, Times">The
answer is "yes" but the question remains if this is a good
idea.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">Here is Roger's response to the idea
from 2 years ago:</font><br>
<br>
Just a data point, for whatever it's worth. Last winter, I crewed
aboard a<br>
36 foot, center cockpit, ketch on a delivery cruise from Florida to
the<br>
Bahamas. Most sailboats we encountered in the Bahamas were 36 feet
long or<br>
bigger. However, there was this one fellow we met. He was
anchored at<br>
Nassau. His 24 foot sloop had jerry cans & other stuff lashed
everywhere on<br>
deck. He was singlehanding & still the boat looked
CRAMMED!<br><br>
I've made three Florida/Bahamas Gulf Stream crossings in sailboats.
One of<br>
these crossings was one of my worst experiences at sea & well beyond
what<br>
you'd ever want to attempt in a Rhodes 22. But, the other two were
at the<br>
upper limit of the Rhodes 22's performance envelope. I have
several<br>
suggestions before you try this however:<br><br>
1. If your Rhodes 22 has the bow anchor chain hawse pipe, then find a way
to<br>
plug<br>
the opening or you may take a lot of water down
below.<br><br>
2. Add some foam weather stripping to the underside of the pop top &
rig up<br>
a<br>
means of securing the pop top down to keep your foam
"gasket" in<br>
compression.<br>
A company called DeStaco makes a wide variety of
dogging clamps that<br>
could<br>
be used for this purpose.<br><br>
3. Before you leave, make several 1/2" thick plywood cutouts in the
shape of<br>
your<br>
ports, both fixed & opening. Glue a rubber
gasket to one side of each<br>
of them &<br>
drill matching holes thru them. These plywood
pieces will be used in<br>
pairs, one<br>
inside & one outside & thru bolted, to plug a
port which gets blown out<br>
at sea.<br><br>
4. No matter how you do it, the Gulf Stream crossing will be a very
long<br>
day.<br>
The weather will be absolutely crucial. Consider
leaving in the middle<br>
of the<br>
night to give yourself as much daylight as possible on
the other end.<br>
Consider<br>
taking on an extra crew member for this leg of the
trip to relieve you.<br>
Consider<br>
installing a tiller pilot. I have an AutoHelm
ST1000+ & it steers our<br>
Rhodes 22<br>
very well.<br><br>
5. Get yourself a good safety harness & install solid anchor points
&<br>
jacklines<br>
on your Rhodes 22.<br><br>
Good luck!<br><br>
Roger Pihlaja<br>
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium<br><br>
<br>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:joscook@msn.com">J Cook</a> <br>
<b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:03 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Rhodes22-list] Bahamas<br><br>
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