[Rhodes22-list] round two, need some help

Ware, Joseph W. rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:52:44 -0400


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Michael, sorry I missed the first round.  Just a couple of small items.  In
blue if it came through.
 
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Meltzer [mailto:mjm@michaelmeltzer.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:13 PM
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] round two, need some help


Thank you Rik, Anne, Mark, Mary and Rummy. I kind of blended it together,
what do you think?
Todd, it was a 3 person vote, one dog hater, one trading votes on the town
budget, the third "compromise", each meeting had over 100 person specking
against it, few if any for it. it going to the full town board now, if need
be 1700 signers will be need for a town vote.
 
MJM
 
An Open Letter to the Westport RTM:

 

            I'm glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter
regulation for Compo Beach, which are just an example of the over-regulation
we've been seeing in our town. I find it an affront to the Connecticut
Yankee spirit,  and to butcher a paraphrase,  "Another person's paranoia
should not be my problem". To the best of my knowledge there have been no
reported problems that demand a solution. A dog owner is morally,
financially and criminally reasonable for the actions of their property. We
understand our responsibility, act appropriately, and would never expose an
out of control animal to the public. 

 

I have three daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite winter activity is
going to Compo Beach with our dog Rooney. After a long winter week, we go
with my wife's complete blessing and relief. We run around, walk the dog,
dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the water, and collect rocks
and shells. We are a family. The girls love the playground. Because I am a
reasonable parent, I am busily keeping a watch on all. Many other children
come to pet and meet our dog Rooney. Like many other families, we have done
this for years. So what are those new rules about? Am I going to be forced
to break the law by having Rooney with me or to break the law by not
supervising my children? Or better yet maybe I should leave the kids at the
house while I take Rooney to the beach? How much family time do any of us
have? 

 

I am a regular guy, humble, hard-working with the Metro North monthly
ticket, up early and home late. I am not a member of PETA, or an activist at
the town meetings or one of these people that think dogs are people. I never
was disappointed in my Westport until now. What some might view as a
compromise is to my family a loss of one of the few town resources we can
use. Never before have I seen an issue forced through by the few wheeling
power in the face of strong opposition.  

 

Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, it is truly a
non-issue. The only problem is in the minds of bored people with not enough
to do and the effects of their tyranny.

 

 

Sincerely,

Michael Meltzer

 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rik  <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> Sandberg 
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>  
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help


Mark,

That was my "best guess" at what Michael was trying to say. Didn't know for
sure what it meant either. Actually didn't mean to send that back to the
list, but forgot to change the address before pushing the send button. Have
since reworded that and sent it again, back channel.

Rik



At 09:51 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:


Last line - not sure what "and the effects of their itinerery." means. Maybe
you could make that a bit more clear.
 
Mark Kaynor 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: ellner <mailto:ellner@pressenter.com>  

To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:41 AM 

Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help



Looks good............maryAt 08:00 AM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: 


Michael,



Second line "ad fount" ????



last word, last paragraph, "ternary"



Give me a hint on these, please.



I am assuming that your Rooney must not be licensed in the town of Westport.
So now you can't legally bring the dog to the beach at all????



Made changes right in the letter. Should have a greeting, dear (whoever) and
at the end a sincerely, to close. You are sincere, aren't you???? :-)



Rik





At 02:10 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: 



I got "foot-in-mouth" at the dog park over the weekend, and was asked to
write a 

letter to the local paper, http://www.doggpac.org/ <http://www.doggpac.org/>
for the background. 

Ok. I figured I would try to run it by the list first, see how it sell and
look for any ideas 

how to punch it up, make it more powerful, persuasive, improve it or tone it
down, 

over the top is nominal for the town :-) Not pound and would welcome any
additions or advice. 

beside I rather start with a 100 people I know before 25,000 in town :-) 





  

An Open Letter to the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Westport RTM



<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



           I'm glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter
regulation for Compo Beach. This is just another example of the
overregulation we've been seeing in your town. I find it ad fount to the
Connecticut Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase "Another person's
paranoia should not be my problem". To the best of my knowlege there have
been no reported problems that demand a solution. 





  

I have three Daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite winter activity is
going to Compo Beach with our dog, I might add, with my wife's blessing,
after a long winter week. We run around, walk the dog, dig the sand, climb
the jetties, play fetch in the water, collect rocks and shells and generally
are a family. The girls love the playground. I, being a reasonable parent,
keep a watch on them all. Dozens of times a day little ones come to pet and
meet Rooney, our dog. We've done this for years, as have other parents, and
there has never been a problem. So what are these new rules about? Am I
going to be forced to break the law by having Rooney with me or to break the
law by not supervising the children. Or better yet maybe I should leave the
kids at the house while I take the Rooney to the beach? How much family time
do any of us have? 





  

I am a normal guy, humble, hard working with the Metro North monthly ticket,
up early and home late. I am not a member of PETA, or an activist at the
town meetings. Nor, am I one of these folks that think dogs are people. I
have never been disappointed in Westport until now. Never before have I seen
an issue forced through by the few wielding power in the face of such strong
opposition.  





  

Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, this is truly a
non-issue. Only problem is in the minds of bored people with not enough to
do and the effects of their itinerary.





  



  

 Michael Meltzer 



 


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D080495018-11092002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Rik, Anne, Mark, Mary and Rummy.=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Todd, it was a 3 person vote, one do=
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=66or <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Compo</st1:PlaceName>=20
<st1:PlaceType>Beach</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, which are just an example=
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=20
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=66or the actions of their property. We understand our responsibility, act=
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and collect rocks and shells. We are a family. The girls love the =
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until=20
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<st1:PlaceType>Beach</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, it is truly a non-issue. =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Sincerely,</P>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark,<BR><BR>That was m=
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  either. Actually didn't mean to send that back to the list, but forgot to=
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that=20
  and sent it again, back channel.<BR><BR>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 09:51 AM=20
  9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite type=3D"cite" cite=3D""><FONT face=3Darial =
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    - not sure what "and the effects of their itinerery." means. Maybe you =
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    Kaynor</FONT>=20
    <DL>
      <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
      <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:ellner@pressenter.com">ellner</A>=20
      <DD>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=20
      <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:41 AM=20
      <DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help<BR><BR>
      <DD>Looks good............maryAt 08:00 AM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:=
=20
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite type=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
        <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
        <DD>Second line "ad fount" ????<BR><BR>
        <DD>last word, last paragraph, "ternary"<BR><BR>
        <DD>Give me a hint on these, please.<BR><BR>
        <DD>I am assuming that your Rooney must not be licensed in the town=
 =
of=20
        Westport. So now you can't legally bring the dog to the beach at=20
        all????<BR><BR>
        <DD>Made changes right in the letter. Should have a greeting, dear=
=20
        (whoever) and at the end a sincerely, to close. You are sincere, =
aren't=20
        you???? :-)<BR><BR>
        <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>At 02:10 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite type=3D"cite" cite=3D""><FONT face=3Darial=
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size=3D2>
          <DD>I got "foot-in-mouth" at the dog park over the weekend, and =
was=20
          asked to write a</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD>letter to the local paper, <A=20
          href=3D"http://www.doggpac.org/">http://www.doggpac.org/</A> for =
the=20
          background.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD>Ok. I figured I would try to run it by the list first, see ho=
w=
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          sell and look for any ideas</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD>how to punch it up, make it more powerful, persuasive, improv=
e=
 it=20
          or tone it down,</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD>over the top is nominal for the town :-) Not pound and would=
=20
          welcome any additions or advice.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>=20
          <DD>beside I rather start with a 100 people I know before 25,000 =
in=20
          town :-)</FONT>=20
          <DD>
          <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
          <DD>An Open Letter to the &lt;?xml:namespace prefix =3D st1 ns =
=3D=
=20
          "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /&gt;Westport =
RTM<BR><BR>
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          "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;<BR><BR>
          <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I'm=20
          glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter =
regulation=20
          for Compo Beach. This is just another example of the =
overregulation=20
          we've been seeing in your town. I find it ad fount to the =
Connecticut=20
          Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase "Another person's =
paranoia=20
          should not be my problem". To the best of my knowlege there have =
been=20
          no reported problems that demand a solution. <BR><BR>
          <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
          <DD>I have three Daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite =
winter=20
          activity is going to Compo Beach with our dog, I might add, with =
my=20
          wife's blessing, after a long winter week. We run around, walk th=
e=
=20
          dog, dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the water, =
collect=20
          rocks and shells and generally are a family. The girls love the=20
          playground. I, being a reasonable parent, keep a watch on them =
all.=20
          Dozens of times a day little ones come to pet and meet Rooney, ou=
r=
=20
          dog. We've done this for years, as have other parents, and there =
has=20
          never been a problem. So what are these new rules about? Am I =
going to=20
          be forced to break the law by having Rooney with me or to break =
the=20
          law by not supervising the children. Or better yet maybe I should=
=20
          leave the kids at the house while I take the Rooney to the beach?=
 =
How=20
          much family time do any of us have? <BR><BR>
          <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
          <DD>I am a normal guy, humble, hard working with the Metro North=
=20
          monthly ticket, up early and home late. I am not a member of PETA=
,=
 or=20
          an activist at the town meetings. Nor, am I one of these folks =
that=20
          think dogs are people. I have never been disappointed in Westport=
=20
          until now. Never before have I seen an issue forced through by th=
e=
 few=20
          wielding power in the face of such strong opposition.&nbsp; =
<BR><BR>
          <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
          <DD>Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, this=
 =
is=20
          truly a non-issue. Only problem is in the minds of bored people =
with=20
          not enough to do and the effects of their itinerary.<BR><BR>
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