[Rhodes22-list] Solution and one more?
Paul Grandholm
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:32:00 -0400
Todd,
Well, your wife's professor is wrong. It's obvious that he
certainly isn't a math professor. Does it surprise you that someone
would say that? Does the fact that someone has the title of professor
preceding their name mean they are infallible? According to the way the
riddle or math question was stated, the boy had to give up half his
apples and then one more. Therefore, the way Rick and I worked it out to
determine that he started with 382 is correct. Don't take my word for
it. Do the math. It works out and the boy ends up with one apple.
Paul
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> Now the reason I called this a riddle and not a math problem is that
> from the way the question is written, it can't be solved
> mathematically....atleast not by me that is. My wife's professor told her I
> was correct.
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>The solution is the boy started with 319 apples.
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>Since this would eventually run into slicing apples because of an odd number
> of apples will at some point be left....the boy having to give half of his
> apples plus one.....gave the one first, then halfed the remainder.
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>Three salesman came into town for a big convention. Every hotel in town was
> booked up and none had made reservations. They tried to check into the only
> hotel with a vacancy at the same time. The desk clerk told them he only had
> one room left and the rate was $25/night. The three men decided to share
> the room and get two roll-away beds.
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>The desk clerk said then the room was $30 instead of $25, so each man paid
> $10. Later on the desk clerk felt guilty about cheating the men out of
> the five bucks and gave the bell boy five and sent him to the salesmen's
> room to return it. The bellboy decided to only give them three and kept two
> for himself.
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>So if each man got a dollar back, then each paid $9. 9 x 3 is 27 and the
> two the bell boy kept makes 29. What happened to the last dollar?
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Sandberg" <racerrik@rea-alp.com>
>Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:00:22 -0500
>To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>
>
>> He had 382 apples. Kind of a greedy little guy wasn't he???? Wonder how he
>> was carrying them all.
>>
>> Rik
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>>
>>
>> > looks like I fail the cource and I never shared the a room with a sales
>> man.
>> >
>> > MJM
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80@mail.com>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:26 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hint: the fourth guard got 20 apples lol.
>> > >
>> > > I swear this is the way the riddle was written. Actually it was a
>> refresher question in my wifes college math class.
>> > >
>> > > Hint: it is like the one about the 3 salesmen that shared a hotel room
>> for $30.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>> > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:03:20 -0400
>> > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > sure
>> > > >
>> > > > MJM
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80@mail.com>
>> > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:11 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > These are real apples...lol
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I tried overthinking it at first too....
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > hints?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>> > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:53:49 -0400
>> > > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject "apples"
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I am assuming apples are integers here, no mention of a knife and
>> talk a bite out of a bribe would lead is just to much of a
>> > pun
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > think about :-), now are we talking about "real" apples :-) and
> is
>> it solvable with precision :-) and maybe I should not
>> > talk
>> > > > about
>> > > > > > precision boating here :-)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > MJM
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark@kaynor.org>
>> > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:53 PM
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject
> "apples"
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > but 1/2 of 3 = 1.5 less one would leave him w/ 1/2 apple....
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Mark
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>> > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:39 PM
>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject
>> "apples"
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > sorry miss the "one" make that a 2^x-1 pattern
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 255 127 63 31 15 7 3 1
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > MJM
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > BTW can someone carry that many apples?
>> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>> > > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:30 PM
>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject
>> "apples"
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > should never ask a computer programmer a binary question
> :-)
>> > > > > > > > > 2^7 or 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > MJM
>> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > > > From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80@mail.com>
>> > > > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:11 PM
>> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] not much chatter new subject
>> "apples"
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Not much chatter today so I will ask a riddle...if it's
>> ok.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > A boy went into an orchard to steal some apples. On
>> the way out
>> > > > > > > he passed seven guards which stopped and questioned him.
>> > > > > > > > > Each time he was stopped by one of the seven guards, he
> had
>> to bribe
>> > > > > > > the guard with half of the remaining apples plus one. If
>> > > > > > > > > after stopping for the seven guards, he left the orchard
>> with only one
>> > > > > > > apple, how many did he start with?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Todd
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > PS There is a solution. some may get it right off...it
>> took me about
>> > > > > > > 10 minutes to figure it out.
>> > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > >
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