[Rhodes22-list] disappointed on discussion of sails

Wally Buck tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 18 09:43:28 EDT 2003 

Gee I hope your not to upset; I will try to remember to change subject.

Wally




>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>Reply-To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] disappointed on discussion of sails
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 05:32:33 -0400
>
>Wally,
>	I was disappointed in the discussion of 175 vs ups vs 125, etc.,
>because it was all under the subject Yacht Club.  Now if someone want to
>review the discussion they have to look at Yacht Club instead of
>sailboat terminology 'Sails'.
>	Snap. Snap.
>                  Ed k
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wally Buck [mailto:tnrhodey at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:49 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
>
>Rummy,
>
>I am considering a new genny but I wasn't sure if I would be happy with
>the
>175 except in really light winds. I am waiting for feedback on the UPS
>sail
>to see how people compare it to the 175.  I know you love your 175. At
>what
>wind speed (when solo) do you need to start furling the 175 to keep the
>boat
>from excessive heel and loss of speed?
>
>One nice thing about the 125 is it fits perfectly inside the upper
>shroud
>and stops just short of the spreader. I can point much higher with this
>sail
>than my old 150 furled. I would think the difference would be even more
>noticeable with the 175.
>
>My Harken Furler does allow much better sail shape than the GB furler.
>Plus
>sail changes are pretty easy. I am not in a rush but at some point I
>would
>like to add a second headsail. I just need to figure out which one would
>be
>the most versatile.
>
>Wally
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: johntonjes at earthlink.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:59:31 -0400
> >
> >Wally,
> >Really throw the ratings for a loop and get a 175 genoa. :)
> >
> >Rummy
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Date: 4/17/2003 2:32:11 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I hear you on the vang. It will help a lot going upwind. With any
>luck I
> >can
> > > convert the one from my Bantam to the R22. I really don't need
>anything
> > > fancy. If I can convince a friend to crew I will fly spinnaker down
> >wind.
> >My
> > > boat is not rigged for racing. I have IMF and a 125 jib. I have an
>older
> >150
> > > but the 125 is one year old and is much faster than the 18 year old
>150.
> >One
> > > thing that will help me is that river racing requires a lot of
>tacking.
> >Most
> > > of the bigger boats race short handed so I am hoping I can use that
>to
> >my
> > > advantage.
> > >
> > >
> > > And yes the fee includes a bunch of parties and dinners. In fact
>they
> >spend
> > > everything on parties and cheap trophies. They have a Christmas
>light
> >parade
> > > and dinner party that is supposed to be a bunch of fun. The Club
>house
> >is
> >a
> > > house right next to the marina. There is usually people in hanging
>out
> > > watching the game or enjoying a drink (BYOB) on the weekend. I
>really
> >wasn't
> > > interested in joining but they seemed like such a nice group of
>folks
> >that I
> > > am now looking forward to it.
> > >
> > > Regarding the 325 PHRF, I am not sure if I can sell them on that.
>There
> >are
> > > about four or five boats in the 22 - 25 range that race. There are
>two
> > > Compaq 23s and an Oday 222 that race. In spite of my non racing rig
>pass
> > > them all of the time. It will be hard to get anything slower than
>they
> >get.
> > > I have passed the Catalina 25 heading upwind a couple of times. I
>will
> >let
> > > you know what they stick me with.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:33:15 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Wally, You do need a boom vang for sail shape for anything from a
>beam
> > > >reach on down.  I have a standard main and it gets a lot of twist
>on
> > > >anything more than a close reach.  Congrats on the Yaaaaaaaaaaaacht
>
> >Club
> >!
> > > >Hopefully the fee includes a few parties.   My entry fee was 30$
>and
> > > >includes about 8 parties.  We are not as exclusive in MO.  Also you
>
> >will
> > > >want a wisker pole for the downwind leg.  Good luck - Make us proud
>-
> >don't
> > > >lower our PHRF though.  Got a 325 this year.  I can run the course
>the
> >next
> > > >day and still have a shot at winning :)
> > > >
> > > >Bob Weber
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > > >>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:58:50 -0400
> > > >>
> > > >>It has been a little more than a year since I slipped my R22 at
>Blue
> > > >>Springs Marina. Several of the Yacht Club members have asked me to
>
> >join
> > > >>the yacht club but I never got around to it. Well last weekend
>they
> >had
> >a
> > > >>party that I attended. I finally decided to join Horizon Yacht
>Club.
> >It
> >is
> > > >>very swanky, expensive, and quite exclusive (not really it is in
>TN!)
> >and
> > > >>I needed to find a sponsor. After much controversy I was voted in.
>I
> >only
> > > >>need to come up with the steep yearly dues. After writing  the
>Purser
> >a
> > > >>check for $150 it was official.
> > > >>
> > > >>Link to Blue Springs -
> > > >>http://www.bluespringsmarina.com/
> > > >>
> > > >>I was quite proud to learn that my boat is considered to be one of
>the
> > > >>most sailed boats in the marina. They race the first Saturday of
>every
> > > >>month and have regattas with other clubs in the area. There are
> >several
> > > >>that are serious (J24 & J80) but most are just looking for fun.
>Most
> >of
> > > >>the boats are in the 27 to 35 foot range and usually don't have a
>full
> > > >>crew. It is usally about 10 boats total, not a big group.
> > > >>
> > > >>So I need to get a boom vang to improve sail shape. I am thinking
>of
> >using
> > > >>the same bail that was provided by GB for mast hoist. I can attach
>the
> > > >>bail at the bottom of the mast. I am going to experiment using the
>
> >vang
> >I
> > > >>made for my Bantam.
> > > >>
> > > >>Wally
> > > >>
> > > >>
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