[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

[Jim Mowrey]

We strap both the stern and the bow.

Jim Mowrey
S/V Yankee Rose

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer


> Speaking of trailers, does anyone strap their boat to the trailer when
> towing?  The previous owner told me to do it to keep the boat from
bouncing
> around too much, but I haven't heard anyone else mention it. - Rob
>
> Rob Lowe
> S/V Getaway
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
> > Not sure.  It came from GB with the recycled boat and is old.  Triad put
a
> > new axle and brakes on it in 98, but said they didn't make it.  It
didn't
> > even have a MFg label and VIN, I had to get one assigned by the DMV.
> >
> > Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > What kind of trailer do you have?  What year?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > PT
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've stayed out of this discussion because I do not trailer very
often
> > > > anymore, but I have one comment.  After 2 years of launching and
> > > retrieving
> > > > and the last two of having the boat loaded on the trailer with a
> travel
> > > > lift, I'm convinced that the position of the hull on the trailer is
> > mainly
> > > > dictated by the bunks.  No matter what I did with the bowstop or
winch
> > > cable
> > > > when loading, the hull settled in the exact same place when it came
> out
> > of
> > > > the water.  In fact, if it was forward and the cable was tight,
trying
> > to
> > > > keep it there, the cable would break when the hull settled.  Even
when
> > > > loaded by a crane, it ended up in the same place.  The crane
operators
> > > said
> > > > that was where it "fit".
> > > >
> > > > I've never had enough tongue weight to trailer above 50 mph without
> > > > fishtailing.  And thats without the motor on the stern.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Walker
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:03 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while
> > loading
> > > > and
> > > > > un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The
> > actual
> > > > boat
> > > > > will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with
> > tongue
> > > > > weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will
> be
> > > > moved
> > > > > back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not
> touch
> > > the
> > > > > bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > S/V Whisper
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > >     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember
> > > someone
> > > > > writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned
> at
> > > > > specific points under the hull.?
> > > > >
> > > > > Todd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
> > > > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > > >
> > > > > > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at
the
> > time
> > > > had
> > > > > > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving
it
> > > > forward
> > > > > a
> > > > > > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as
we
> > > > speak.
> > > > > > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > S/V Whisper
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > > > > > To: Rhodes
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with
> > Fandango.
> > > > We
> > > > > > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing
and
> > > living
> > > > > > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime)
> but
> > > > after
> > > > > > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations
> with
> > > > > varying
> > > > > > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something
> is
> > > > > > definitely wrong here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on
> the
> > > > > trailer.
> > > > > > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor
> off
> > > and
> > > > > > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth,
> > along
> > > > > with
> > > > > > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom
scale
> > to
> > > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up
> to
> > > 300
> > > > > lbs.
> > > > > > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the
> > hitch--so
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer
> > > fishtailed
> > > > at
> > > > > > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the
way.
> I
> > > use
> > > > a
> > > > > > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in
so
> > far
> > > > that
> > > > > > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the
> > forward
> > > > > ends
> > > > > > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard
at
> > the
> > > > > > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed
> before,
> > > you
> > > > > pull
> > > > > > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the
> > trailer
> > > > out
> > > > > > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and
> leaves
> > > the
> > > > > boat
> > > > > > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to
mention
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it
a
> > > > design
> > > > > > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or
> > something.
> > > > Can
> > > > > > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Slim
> > > > > >
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