[Rhodes22-list] looks like the power is back

[Wally Buck]

Ed,

You can get huge UPS system that run on diesel or propane to serve as power 
backups. Lots of companies use them, lots more don't. If the entire WAN 
doesn't have power it still wouldn't do much good though.

Wally


>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>Reply-To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] looks like the power is back
>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:28:17 -0400
>
>Michael,
>	I did not have a problem, my laptop worked fine.  But you did.
>What are you going to suggest to your boss?
>                               Ed K
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:58 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] looks like the power is back
>
>lap tops are not nominally servers, most or my stuff is rackmount, what
>are you asking or problem you are having?
>
>MJM
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:53 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] looks like the power is back
>
>
> > Michael,
> > Do they have laptop servers?
> >                                      Ed K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:04 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] looks like the power is back
> >
> > Well, on a bright note, Michael.  From what I heard it
> > wasn't so bad.  In Arkansas, every time a Tonado goes
> > by or we have an Ice storm; we lose power.  Sometime
> > for a week or so.  Are you sure you wouldn't want to
> > move to the country:-)  When the power goes out, work
> > shuts down and we all get to go hunting!!!!!
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Sounds like you didn't have a "good week".  I'm glad
> > > you're OK though.
> > >
> > > The power outage of summer, 2003 looks like it's
> > > going to be a classic
> > > example of the interconnectedness & inherent frailty
> > > of modern technology.
> > > Overload one high voltage transmission line near
> > > Cleveland, OH on a hot
> > > summer afternoon & generate a cascading electrical
> > > grid failure that cuts
> > > power over about 7200 square miles of the United
> > > States & Canada affecting
> > > about 50 million people!  Lots of folks also lost
> > > their potable water system
> > > when the power went down.  Of course, the mass
> > > transit systems also shut
> > > down.  I will never forget the sight of all those
> > > thousands of people
> > > streaming out of Manhattan on foot via the Brooklyn
> > > Bridge & thousands more
> > > having to sleep on the sidewalk in Times Square, &
> > > this was from just a
> > > minor glitch in one system.  The entire system is so
> > > complex & so
> > > interconnected, it's truly amazing; that, events
> > > like this don't happen more
> > > frequently.  Overall, the engineers have done a
> > > wonderful job of making
> > > everything work together so efficiently that it
> > > becomes invisible.  Most
> > > people never give the technological infrastructure,
> > > that is literally their
> > > life support system, a moments thought.  I like the
> > > way James Burke put it,
> > > "We all live in a technological trap."  Our
> > > population is already much too
> > > large & too densely packed into major metropolitan
> > > areas to support without
> > > all this technology.  So, we have no choice but to
> > > stumble along as best we
> > > can.  No doubt, the experts will extensively study
> > > the root causes of this
> > > power outage.  Technical, regulatory, & managerial
> > > improvements or
> > > safeguards will be implemented as a result.  But,
> > > the system is so complex,
> > > interconnected, & always changing; that, there are
> > > always going to be many
> > > more modes of failure than can be anticipated or
> > > protected against, even
> > > without a terrorist attack.  Perhaps, we simply have
> > > to accept an occasional
> > > glitch as the price we pay for a high standard of
> > > living 99.9+% of the time.
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > To: <jbconnolly at comcast.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> > > list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ham] RE: [Rhodes22-list] looks like
> > > the power is back
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got big time stuck, 26 floors up and no way to
> > > get home. As I said to
> > > the wife "I am spending the nice candle lite night
> > > with the
> > > > boss, sweet violet smell in the air(the candles),
> > > sweating, eating
> > > somewhat cold leftover from the refigdator(beat me
> > > who's or
> > > > what's), the water is out(roof top tank drained),
> > > toltes are hell and
> > > worst of all the boss/his  hairy legs are looking
> > > sexy to me
> > > > in the some what stipped state we are in.
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> > > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:39 PM
> > > > Subject: [ham] RE: [Rhodes22-list] looks like the
> > > power is back
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > How long were you in the dark?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you get stuck in NYC?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Connolly
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:49 PM, Michael
> > > Meltzer
> > > [SMTP:mjm at michaelmeltzer.com] wrote:
> > > > > > test
> > > > > >
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