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Rik Sandberg
sanderico@earthlink.net
Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:55:17 -0600
Mark,
Yup. Been there seen that. Nor-Sea did have some problems, 10 or 12 years
ago. The difference between me and most folks that have read that website is
that I have heard both sides of that story. Jim Montgomery (from the
website) pretty much made his own bed on that deal. Far as I'm concerned, he
got pretty much what he asked for. The way I understand it, he's about the
only one that didn't end up with a boat and for that IMHO he has no one to
blame but himself. You see, he conveniently leaves out a few "small" details
on his website that sorta change the whole picture more to his favor.
Rik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark@kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:57 PM
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> Rik,
>
> The Nor'Sea looks like a nice boat. Did you see the web site r.e. all the
> people who were upset w/ Bob Eeg for taking deposits and not finishing
their
> boats? http://www.norsea27.com/
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:55 PM
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>
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > Yes, I did. In fact, I had a Nor-Sea surveyed out in Washington (state)
> > back in October. It turned out to be more of a project than I really
> > wanted. They were though, definitely on the short list of boats I would
> > like to own. Ocean capable, but still transportable with no permit
issues
> > and such. A nice one will be quite expensive though. I'd say, given
about
> > equal quality, about 1 1/2 times a Flicka, on average, age for age. Have
> > had quite a few conversations with Bob Eeg, the builder of the Nor-Sea
in
> > the past. In fact, he wrote to congratulate me when he heard I had
bought
> > the Flicka.
> >
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > At 03:12 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >.ear> <5.2.0.9.0.20030212133155.00ad5960@pop.earthlink.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:11:27 -0500
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> > >Rik,
> > >
> > >I meant "While you were searching for a transportable boat, did you
look
> at
> > >the Nor'Sea as a possibility?".
> > >
> > >I figured w/ your truck and experience actually transporting it
wouldn't
> be
> > >the issue for you.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > >
> > > > Sure, why not??? I have a truck now and I have had others in the
past
> that
> > > > would easily tow, either the Flicka or the Nor-Sea. The beam is
about
> the
> > > > same on both, about 8 feet, although the Nor-Sea is a couple
thousand
> > > > pounds heavier than the Flicka. Draft is even within a couple inches
> of
> > >the
> > > > same.
> > > >
> > > > Towing these boats is really pretty much a non-issue for me. Any of
> them
> > > > are far smaller than the race trailers I have towed all over the
upper
> > > > midwest for the last 17 years years and about 180,000 miles or so.
> And, I
> > > > do make my living in the trucking business, so I have a lot (about
28
> > > > years) of experience with even bigger outfits than this. The biggest
> race
> > > > trailer I had a few years back, would make almost two of the
Nor-Seas.
> 32
> > > > foot box (36 ft overall) Tri-axle. Gross weight (loaded) about
15,000,
> > > > about 27,500 counting the truck, 8'6" wide and 12' High. Truck and
> trailer
> > > > were about 64 feet long overall. After you drive something like that
> > >around
> > > > for a while, towing boats doesn't seem like such a big deal anymore.
> Boats
> > > > tow very easily in comparison.
> > > >
> > > > Rik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:47 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >thlink.net <001501c2d2c7$a5c23bd0$6501a8c0@rik>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:46:08 -0500
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> > > > >
> > > > >Rik,
> > > > >
> > > > >Did you look at the Nor'Sea as a "transportable"?
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:50 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > George,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Worry not....... Already had a bigger truck. And if that one
isn't
> big
> > > > > > enough I've got some bigger ones than that too. I could haul a
> Halberg
> > > > > > Rassey 42 if I had to. Not likely though, the Flicka was spendy
> > >enough.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't really think of the Flicka a trailerable, more like
> > >transportable.
> > > > > > Ramp launching and retrieving in the same day isn't going to
> happen
> > >like
> > > > >it
> > > > > > does with the R22. The Flicka will live in the water for a while
> once
> > >it's
> > > > > > in there. But yes, the additional living space is the reason for
> > >having
> > > > >it.
> > > > > > Hope to have some extended stays down south in the winters
ahead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rik
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "George Stecyk" <GeorgeS@af.tv>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:32 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rik,
> > > > > > > Saw the thead regarding your new (to you) Flicka, and saw your
> > >pictures
> > > > >in
> > > > > > > Chicago - great boat, I know someone who owned, sailed and
lived
> on
> > >one
> > > > >on
> > > > > > > the east coast.
> > > > > > > But trailerable??? You may need a bigger truck!
> > > > > > > George
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:38 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nah, No thanks. Won't be needing that either.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At 11:33 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > >Ric, I am sure we still have the large supply of opium
> around
> > >for
> > > > >bomb
> > > > > > > > >"survivors"(cold war leftovers), otherwise know as the
> > > > > > > > >walking dead. this is for the down range people, my wife
> still
> > >tells
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >story of riding out cernoble<sp> living in Germany.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:11 PM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well, I guess I would thank them for their concern and
ask
> > >that
> > > > >they
> > > > > > > give
> > > > > > > > > > their stuff to someone who needs it worse than I do. I
> think
> > >if
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > nuke
> > > > > > > > > > lands close enough that the radiation is going to be a
> > >problem, I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > probably have a hell of a lot more to worry about than
my
> > >thyroid.
> > > > > > > 'Course,
> > > > > > > > > > maybe that's just me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > At 10:32 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >to use a bad paraphrase "if you have the question you
> will
> > >never
> > > > > > > > > > >understand the paranoia", Had to sign a permission slip
> this
> > >week
> > > > > > > > > > >for the school to give out iodide tables to the kids in
> case
> > >of
> > > > >an
> > > > > > > > > > >emergency(not kidding). The heath district is handing
out
> a
> > >30
> > > > > > > > > > >day supply to each household
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >And to save the next question, prevents the thyroid
from
> > > > >adsorbing
> > > > > > > > > radiation
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:45 PM
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Makes me glad I live out here in the middle. Seems
> like
> > >there
> > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > way too
> > > > > > > > > > > > much paranoia out on the ends. Seal the windows from
> > >what????
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:13 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >waiting for the end of the current threat level,
the
> > >stright
> > > > > > > > > answer is to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >"protect me", BTW thier was a run on ducttape in
DC,
> to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >seal the windows.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > ><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:18 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, just what is it these troops are doing in
> downtown
> > >NY,
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > combat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gear???
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:55 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >well I have been spending the days getting
> up-close
> > >and
> > > > > > > > > personal with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >troops in full combat gear, great fun downtown
NY
> and
> > > > > > passing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >thought grand central, give me a real safe
> feeling
> > >(not)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > ><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:34 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, It's up. Maybe we should have a
> political
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > something :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) It ain't near so quiet then.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody heard any good parables lately????
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:13 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey, it is awful quiet out there. Is the
> list
> > >up?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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