[ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good idea

John Tonjes johntonjes@earthlink.net
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:45:52 -0500


Slim,
I don't know. I feal sorry for him. It's a shame that anyone should be
forced to live such a poor standard of living. 

Rummy

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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good idea


Brad,

Exactly how was it that you were "victimized" by reverse discrimination?
Aren't you now a successful pilot and gainfully employed?  2nd home in
China?  Sailing vacations in Florida?

It doesn't sound like you're a victim.  I sure don't feel sorry for you.

Slim

On 2/24/03 7:08 AM, "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Stan,
> 
> To everyone's relief (especially my family) I'm
> leaving today for Florida to go sailing for a few
> days.  It will be up to you to solve the worlds
> problems.  With that in mind, let me leave you with a
> few thoughts.
> 
> As was previously said on this list (Rummy I think)
> you would have been successful with or with out
> whatever help you recieved with your education.  You
> would have succeeded without an education.  Talent and ability 
> combined with ambition is nearly always rewarded.  It may have taken 
> longer but you would still have achieved your goals.
> 
> As a victim of blatant reverse discrimination I have
> some pretty strong feelings about affirmative action. Frankly, I think

> its served whatever good purpose, if any, it can and is overdue to 
> eliminated.
> 
> The following are all quoted from a Wall Street
> Journal letter titled "Wonder Land" by Daniel
> Henninger last January (sorry, I clipped the article
> but cut off the date, it was a Friday).
> "Three years ago in New York, the percentage of black students who did

> NOT graduate from high school was 54%.  In California, 41%. In 
> Tennessee, 54% didn't graduate.  And in Wisconsin, which is thought of

> as a fairly normal place, the percentage of black kids who
> didn't make it out of high school in the class of 2000
> was a mind-boggling 59%....This data appears in
> Education Week's annual report, "Quality
> Counts"....What we know and have known for a very long
> time is that nearly half of America's black teenagers
> haven't a hope of attending even the least-known
> two-year community college anywhere.  What is the Rev.
> Jesse L. Jackson doing about this scandal?  He is
> calling Geooge W. Bush "the most anti-civil rights
> president in 50 years."  Given those shameful
> graduation rates, one wonders what the "pro-civil
> rights presidents were doing the past 50
> years.......It is remarkable how often the combatants
> in the debate over college affirmative-action default
> to the notion that nothing proves one's commitment to
> "diversity" more than one's willingness to adjust the
> entry requirements to a Harvard, Yale or Michigan.
> For instance, New Jersey Rep. Robert Menendez ripped
> into Mr. Bush last week over his legacy admission
> "into the Ivy League."  Yale?  The average black child
> attending high school in Newark, Camden, Paterson or
> Jersey City can barely hope of getting into, say,
> Rutgers......
> 
> The author's point, and mine, is that we have bigger
> problems to deal with in education than worry about a
> handful of super-achieving minorities who will make it
> just fine with or without affirmative action.  Just
> like you Stan.  Discrimination is wrong.  Changing it
> from one color to a different color doesn't make it
> any less wrong.
> 
> Brad Haslett
> --- General Boats <wwrhodes@rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> Glad to see we are back to political bashing - I
>> agree with Brad, it
>> perks up the list.   I also agree with Brad that
>> Billy boy is smart.  IQ
>> is over 200.  Georgy boy's is under 100 .  I have
>> mixed feelings about
>> the affirmative action program since I would have
>> probably missed out if
>> this were in place in my day - but don't know why
>> George would be
>> against it since he got into Yale because of
>> Affirmative Action.
>> 
>> stan/gbi
>> 
>> brad haslett wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> The whole Lewensky thing was good for
>> entertainment
>>> value if nothing else.  If the press had done
>> their
>>> job in the late 80's and early 90's voters would
>> have
>>> known what a sleazeball Billy Boy was with his
>> pants
>>> up, much less down.  At least the congressional
>>> elections of 1994 kept his big spending social
>>> programs in check.  Billy Boy IS a smart guy.  I
>> would
>> 
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