[Rhodes22-list] R. M. Nixon

Wally Buck tnrhodey@hotmail.com
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:50:30 -0500


Jay,

Stand back, with this much fuel I think this list is getting ready to 
explode!

It better warm up soon so we can all go sailing.

Wally


>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R. M. Nixon
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:37:14 -0500
>
>Not that we need any more fuel on that fire, but in case we forgot, just 
>found this on another list-
>
>
>
>Here's One Take (Via eMail)
>===========================
>Dear Mr. Ex-President:
>
>I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
>Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending
>my "Thank you" for what you have done, . .. . specifically:
>
>1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
>Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick.
>Did I leave anyone out?
>
>2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really
>planned to wait until they were older to discuss it with them, but now
>they know more about it than I did as a senior in college.
>
>3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place
>(especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to
>know is what the meaning of "is" is. It really is great to know that
>certain sexual acts are not sex.
>
>4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new
>generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie
>"Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.
>
>5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look
>graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and
>John Kennedy look moral.
>
>6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the
>5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid
>testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.
>
>7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's
>from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal
>convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.
>
>8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of
>our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations"
>carefully disguised as necessary trips.
>
>9. Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars-I really didn't
>need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more well deserving
>group of recipients for my hard-earned dollars than jet fuel for all
>of your globe-trotting. I understand you; the family and your cronies
>have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other
>administration.
>
>10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons
>of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have
>them rejoin society.
>
>11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware, I'm sure that
>Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the
>housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends."
>
>12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House
>for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I
>also appreciate removing all of that excess weight (China,
>silverware,linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass,
>flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means
>burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel, thank you!
>
>13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million
>dollar advance for her upcoming "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $5
>million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!
>
>14. The last and most important point- thank you for forcing Israel to
>let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus
>in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As
>part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had
>to agree to release so-called "political prisoners." However, the
>Israelis would not release any with blood on their
>hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his
>Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all
>prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually
>thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World
>Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks
>at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was
>censored in the US from all later reports.
>God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so
>wisely and frugally.
>
>SINCERELY,
>
>A US Citizen
>
>
>On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Steve Alm wrote:
>
>>Thanks Brad.  Wouldn't you know it, it's a fat-boy-stuffing-his-face 
>>story.
>>
>>Slim
>>
>>On 1/24/03 8:18 AM, "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Slim,
>>>
>>>Everyone asks that question.  If I had some solid
>>>"dirt" I would have been singing like a canary to the
>>>New York Times.  I flew charter for the largest
>>>charter outfit in Arkansas, did pilot service for
>>>several corporations, and later flew two corporate
>>>jets that were leased back for charter.  The governor
>>>of Arkansas doesn't have an airplane so he either
>>>charters or someone gives him a free ride.  Some days
>>>a bank, some days a utility, some days a political
>>>action committee.  If a freebe couldn't be found the
>>>state itself might pay. A state trooper always dropped
>>>him off and another picked him up.  There were always
>>>groupies around but that wasn't unusual for
>>>politicians.  I flew them all.  Most were extremely
>>>friendly, especially Dale Bumbers while he was
>>>Senator, Wilbur Mills after he left office. I didn't
>>>agree with Senator Bumper's politics but he always
>>>invited me to hear him speak anywhere we went, and I
>>>appreciated the free chicken dinner from the
>>>Democrats. I also flew a lot of rich and powerful
>>>business types, i.e., Jerry Jones before the Cowboys,
>>>etc.  They were almost all great people to work for
>>>and took an interest in the pilots well being (duh,
>>>like we didn't control theirs).  Billy, on the other
>>>hand, was a different story.  The average age of the
>>>"advisors" that traveled with him was about
>>>twenty-five (about my age at the time) and they acted
>>>like they ruled the world.  This isn't much of a dirty
>>>story but its the best I can do.  Boy governor is
>>>flying to DC to make a speech and wants to leave
>>>Arkansas about 11pm.  I called the governor's office
>>>and explained that National will be close after 11pm
>>>so we'll fly into Dulles.  "Does the Governor have
>>>ground transportation or would you like me to set that
>>>up?  Standard routine stuff.  We had bi-fold business
>>>cards with our company name on the outside.  On the
>>>inside was our names, the N number of the Jet, the
>>>name of the FBO where it was parked, the phone number,
>>>and a copy of our proposed itenerary.  If anything
>>>changed, a meeting ran over, etc., most customers were
>>>good about calling, or having a secretary call, so we
>>>didn't sit around at attention all day.  Billy never
>>>did.  As we're walking out to the jet that night one
>>>of his punks asks "what time are we getting to
>>>National?"  I answered "were not flying to National,
>>>were going to Dulles".  That started a whole
>>>conversation about what the governor wanted and didn't
>>>want and finally ended when I suggested he call the
>>>President and ask that they re-open National just for
>>>them.  Anyway, we get to Dulles, I hand them our card
>>>with the proposed schedule, and explain that we're
>>>going to a hotel to spend the day and will be ready to
>>>depart at, whatever time.  "NO! The governor has to be
>>>in Hot Springs for a speech tonight, wait here!"  I
>>>was about to punch this kids lights out but needed to
>>>eat and keep a career going and all so I said we would
>>>wait.  Twelve hours later we're still waiting and
>>>getting hungry.  Finally I said "screw this lets get
>>>something to eat".  My First Officer says, "what if
>>>Billy shows up and we're gone?".  "Good point, we'll
>>>order catering".  Boy governor shows up about fours
>>>hours later with no apology and as we're walking to
>>>the airplane he puts his arm around me and says "Brad,
>>>we have anything to eat?".  "Yes Sir Governor, we've
>>>got potato chips, granola bars, crackers, and all the
>>>scotch and soda you want!".  We get on the jet and our
>>>catering is spread out on the center console of the
>>>cockpit, its odor permeating the whole aircraft.  We
>>>closed off the cockpit to keep their mitts off the
>>>food and launched.  About an hour into the flight home
>>>my FO says, "I'm stuffed, you want this other sandwich
>>>and dessert?".  I opened the cockpit and looked back
>>>at Billy eating a bag of peanuts and a Coke.  "Keep
>>>eating, we're not leaving anything for those
>>>assholes".  Sorry, weak story but the best I can do. I
>>>had some wonderful customers flying charter, Billy
>>>was not one of them.
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                          --- Steve
>>>Alm <salm@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>C'mon Brad, let's have the dirt on Billy Boy.
>>>>Slim
>>>>
>>>>On 1/23/03 4:33 PM, "brad haslett"
>>>><flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Wally,
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow, I would love to have been a part of that.  My
>>>>>only exposure to a real President was I used to
>>>>fly
>>>>>Billy around when he was boy governer of Arkansas.
>>>>  If
>>>>>only I had known.  He was one of my least favorite
>>>>>customers, a real jerk in fact, and the "punk
>>>>kids" he
>>>>>surrounded himself with were even worse.  We'll
>>>>get
>>>>>together over some beers and I'll tell you the
>>>>whole
>>>>>story. I got even with the a***, uh, governor one
>>>>day
>>>>>real good.  Maybe that's why I never got invited
>>>>to
>>>>>the Lincoln bedroom.  Excuse me, I digress.  Nixon
>>>>was
>>>>>the first President I ever campaigned for.  I put
>>>>a
>>>>>"NIXONS THE ONE" bumper sticker on every car at
>>>>the
>>>>>Fayette County Illinois fair in 1968 when I was,
>>>>uh,
>>>>>young.  He is still a facinating man, very flawed,
>>>>but
>>>>>interesting.  Opening China was brilliant!
>>>>Clinton
>>>>>conferred with Nixon several times after he took
>>>>>office.  Nixon loved it.  I can remember the day
>>>>he
>>>>>resigned like it was yesterday.  He brought a lot
>>>>of
>>>>>shame to the office that we're still recovering
>>>>from
>>>>>today.  And to think, he was in office during the
>>>>>sexual revolution and didn't mess with the
>>>>interns!
>>>>>Pity, Pity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad
>>>>>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Brad,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Back in the early 70s my Dad was stationed in San
>>>>>>Diego. We lived on base
>>>>>>and the President was coming to visit. We headed
>>>>to
>>>>>>the Naval Air Station
>>>>>>and saw Air Force One come in for a landing and
>>>>then
>>>>>>taxi over to the
>>>>>>cheering crowd. Nixon came down from the plane
>>>>>>waving to the crowd and
>>>>>>stopped to shake hands before jumping in his
>>>>limo.
>>>>>>Well Tricky Dick shook my
>>>>>>hand and patted me on the back. I was only
>>>>thirteen
>>>>>>years old and didn't
>>>>>>know squat about politics but I really liked
>>>>Nixon
>>>>>>after that. I mean after
>>>>>>all he did shake my hand right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well a few years later we are living in Fairfax
>>>>VA
>>>>>>(Dads was working at
>>>>>>Pentagon then) and Watergate hits the scene. Talk
>>>>>>about bursting my bubble.
>>>>>>First Agnew is gone and then Nixon announces his
>>>>>>resignation.  My Mom wanted
>>>>>>us to see history in the making. She loaded up
>>>>the
>>>>>>wagon with the family and
>>>>>>we went down to the White House to witness
>>>>Nixon's
>>>>>>infamous exit. We saw him
>>>>>>walk over to the helicopter, give his big two
>>>>handed
>>>>>>wave and fly away in
>>>>>>disgrace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It was kind of cool to see all of this first
>>>>hand.
>>>>>>It really opened up my
>>>>>>eyes though and I have not trusted politicians
>>>>ever
>>>>>>since.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>To: wwrhodes@rhodes22.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
>>>>list
>>>>>>><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Social programs.
>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:05:42 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That reminds me of the campaign rhetoric from
>>>>1992
>>>>>>>coming from the "pork belly" Senator from NY,
>>>>>>>remember, "the greed of the 80's".  Much of the
>>>>>>>"paradigm shift" in the "new economy" of the
>>>>>>nineties
>>>>>>>was "smoke and mirrrors".  My best friend, a
>>>>very
>>>>>>>conservative stock broker, said all through the
>>>>>>boom
>>>>>>>there wasn't anything to back up the stock
>>>>prices
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>he was right.  Some CEO's, no, make that a lot
>>>>of
>>>>>>>CEO's turned out to be crooks. I hope they go to
>>>>>>jail
>>>>>>>but they probably won't.  Now we're in the
>>>>middle
>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>>recession, business cycle, correction, what ever
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>want to call it.  It would have come no matter
>>>>who
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>in office or who ran the SEC just as the Tulip
>>>>>>Bubble
>>>>>>>burst in Holland several hundred years ago.
>>>>We've
>>>>>>made
>>>>>>>money about as cheap as it can get and people
>>>>>>aren't
>>>>>>>spending.  Now we're running up the deficit just
>>>>as
>>>>>>>FDR did to jump start the economy.  Cutting
>>>>taxes
>>>>>>>worked for Reagan, maybe it will work for 43.
>>>>The
>>>>>>>truth is, as Richard Nixon lamented, the
>>>>President
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>either hero or goat as a result of the economy
>>>>with
>>>>>>>limited means to change it in the short run...
>>>>Ah,
>>>>>>>Richard Milhous Nixon!  Oh well, save that
>>>>praise
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>another day Bradley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Brad Haslett
>>>>>>>--- General Boats <wwrhodes@rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>You are talking about the C.E.O. generation the
>>>>>>>>government coddled after Levitt
>>>>>>>>left the helm of the SEC, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>stan/gbi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rummy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Absolutely agree that a "helping hand"
>>>>>>sometimes
>>>>>>>>is necessary and good. What
>>>>>>>>>we have now is not a helping hand. The better
>>>>>>>>share of these people are
>>>>>>>>>doing nothing more than mooching their entire
>>>>>>>>existence off of the rest of
>>>>>>>>>us. Probably can't only blame either them or
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>government for that though,
>>>>>>>>>as much as we'd like to, WE are letting them
>>>>>>do it
>>>>>>>>to us. I'm with Steve
>>>>>>>>>here. Once you let people get used to getting
>>>>>>>>stuff for nothing, not only do
>>>>>>>>>they eventually stop appreciating these
>>>>>>benefits,
>>>>>>>>they soon also expect
>>>>>>>>>more. Just ask them, they'll tell you they
>>>>>>>>*deserve* this stuff. Some folks
>>>>>>>>>just don't have the strength of character to
>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>pride in making their own
>>>>>>>>>way through life. Free handouts uncover these
>>>>>>>>types very quickly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rik
>>>>
>>>=== message truncated ===
>>>
>>>
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