[Rhodes22-list] R. M. Nixon

Steve rhodes2282@yahoo.com
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:34:43 -0800 (PST)


I sure will be glad when it warms up!!!!!!!!!  Its
freezing over here in Arkansas!  I'm ready for spring.
Steve


--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jay,
> 
> Stand back, with this much fuel I think this list is
> getting ready to 
> explode!
> 
> It better warm up soon so we can all go sailing.
> 
> Wally
> 
> 
> >From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R. M. Nixon
> >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:37:14 -0500
> >
> >Not that we need any more fuel on that fire, but in
> case we forgot, just 
> >found this on another list-
> >
> >
> >
> >Here's One Take (Via eMail)
> >===========================
> >Dear Mr. Ex-President:
> >
> >I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank
> me, I voted for
> >Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on
> that, and I am sending
> >my "Thank you" for what you have done, . .. .
> specifically:
> >
> >1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer
> Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
> >Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and
> Juanita Broderick.
> >Did I leave anyone out?
> >
> >2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral
> sex. I had really
> >planned to wait until they were older to discuss it
> with them, but now
> >they know more about it than I did as a senior in
> college.
> >
> >3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment
> in the work place
> >(especially the White House) and on the job is OK,
> and all you have to
> >know is what the meaning of "is" is. It really is
> great to know that
> >certain sexual acts are not sex.
> >
> >4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of
> impeachment to a new
> >generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous
> plot of the movie
> >"Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.
> >
> >5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent,
> Gerald Ford look
> >graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson
> look truthful, and
> >John Kennedy look moral.
> >
> >6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses
> who have pled the
> >5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the
> country to avoid
> >testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.
> >
> >7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions,
> and 4 imprisonment's
> >from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal
> charges and 32 criminal
> >convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton"
> scandals.
> >
> >8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half,
> "gutting" much of
> >our foreign policy, and flying all over the world
> on "vacations"
> >carefully disguised as necessary trips.
> >
> >9. Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of
> dollars-I really didn't
> >need it in the first place, and I can't think of a
> more well deserving
> >group of recipients for my hard-earned dollars than
> jet fuel for all
> >of your globe-trotting. I understand you; the
> family and your cronies
> >have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than
> any other
> >administration.
> >
> >10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks
> for the 140 pardons
> >of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile.
> We will love to have
> >them rejoin society.
> >
> >11. Thanks also for removing the White House
> silverware, I'm sure that
> >Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also,
> enjoy the
> >housewarming gifts you've received from your
> "friends."
> >
> >12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing
> of the White House
> >for vandalizing and destroying government property
> on the way out. I
> >also appreciate removing all of that excess weight
> (China,
> >silverware,linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens,
> magnetic compass,
> >flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The
> weight savings means
> >burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on
> jet fuel, thank you!
> >
> >13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys
> the $8 million
> >dollar advance for her upcoming "tell-all" book and
> you, Bill, the $5
> >million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime
> doesn't pay!
> >
> >14. The last and most important point- thank you
> for forcing Israel to
> >let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed
> Atta blew up a bus
> >in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and
> imprisoned him. As
> >part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in
> 1993, Israel had
> >to agree to release so-called "political
> prisoners." However, the
> >Israelis would not release any with blood on their
> >hands. The American President at the time, Bill
> Clinton, and his
> >Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted"
> that all
> >prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed
> and eventually
> >thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One
> of the World
> >Trade Center. This was reported by many of the
> American TV networks
> >at the time that the terrorists were first
> identified. It was
> >censored in the US from all later reports.
> >God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for
> spending my taxes so
> >wisely and frugally.
> >
> >SINCERELY,
> >
> >A US Citizen
> >
> >
> >On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 04:51 PM, Steve Alm
> wrote:
> >
> >>Thanks Brad.  Wouldn't you know it, it's a
> fat-boy-stuffing-his-face 
> >>story.
> >>
> >>Slim
> >>
> >>On 1/24/03 8:18 AM, "brad haslett"
> <flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Slim,
> >>>
> >>>Everyone asks that question.  If I had some solid
> >>>"dirt" I would have been singing like a canary to
> the
> >>>New York Times.  I flew charter for the largest
> >>>charter outfit in Arkansas, did pilot service for
> >>>several corporations, and later flew two
> corporate
> >>>jets that were leased back for charter.  The
> governor
> >>>of Arkansas doesn't have an airplane so he either
> >>>charters or someone gives him a free ride.  Some
> days
> >>>a bank, some days a utility, some days a
> political
> >>>action committee.  If a freebe couldn't be found
> the
> >>>state itself might pay. A state trooper always
> dropped
> >>>him off and another picked him up.  There were
> always
> >>>groupies around but that wasn't unusual for
> >>>politicians.  I flew them all.  Most were
> extremely
> >>>friendly, especially Dale Bumbers while he was
> >>>Senator, Wilbur Mills after he left office. I
> didn't
> >>>agree with Senator Bumper's politics but he
> always
> >>>invited me to hear him speak anywhere we went,
> and I
> >>>appreciated the free chicken dinner from the
> >>>Democrats. I also flew a lot of rich and powerful
> >>>business types, i.e., Jerry Jones before the
> Cowboys,
> >>>etc.  They were almost all great people to work
> for
> >>>and took an interest in the pilots well being
> (duh,
> >>>like we didn't control theirs).  Billy, on the
> other
> >>>hand, was a different story.  The average age of
> the
> >>>"advisors" that traveled with him was about
> >>>twenty-five (about my age at the time) and they
> acted
> >>>like they ruled the world.  This isn't much of a
> dirty
> >>>story but its the best I can do.  Boy governor is
> >>>flying to DC to make a speech and wants to leave
> >>>Arkansas about 11pm.  I called the governor's
> office
> >>>and explained that National will be close after
> 11pm
> >>>so we'll fly into Dulles.  "Does the Governor
> have
> >>>ground transportation or would you like me to set
> that
> >>>up?  Standard routine stuff.  We had bi-fold
> business
> >>>cards with our company name on the outside.  On
> the
> >>>inside was our names, the N number of the Jet,
> the
> >>>name of the FBO where it was parked, the phone
> number,
> >>>and a copy of our proposed itenerary.  If
> anything
> >>>changed, a meeting ran over, etc., most customers
> were
> >>>good about calling, or having a secretary call,
> so we
> >>>didn't sit around at attention all day.  Billy
> never
> >>>did.  As we're walking out to the jet that night
> one
> >>>of his punks asks "what time are we getting to
> >>>National?"  I answered "were not flying to
> National,
> >>>were going to Dulles".  That started a whole
> >>>conversation about what the governor wanted and
> didn't
> >>>want and finally ended when I suggested he call
> the
> >>>President and ask that they re-open National just
> for
> >>>them.  Anyway, we get to Dulles, I hand them our
> card
> >>>with the proposed schedule, and explain that
> we're
> >>>going to a hotel to spend the day and will be
> ready to
> >>>depart at, whatever time.  "NO! The governor has
> to be
> >>>in Hot Springs for a speech tonight, wait here!" 
> I
> >>>was about to punch this kids lights out but
> needed to
> >>>eat and keep a career going and all so I said we
> would
> >>>wait.  Twelve hours later we're still waiting and
> >>>getting hungry.  Finally I said "screw this lets
> get
> >>>something to eat".  My First Officer says, "what
> if
> >>>Billy shows up and we're gone?".  "Good point,
> we'll
> >>>order catering".  Boy governor shows up about
> fours
> >>>hours later with no apology and as we're walking
> to
> >>>the airplane he puts his arm around me and says
> "Brad,
> >>>we have anything to eat?".  "Yes Sir Governor,
> we've
> >>>got potato chips, granola bars, crackers, and all
> the
> >>>scotch and soda you want!".  We get on the jet
> and our
> >>>catering is spread out on the center console of
> the
> >>>cockpit, its odor permeating the whole aircraft. 
> We
> >>>closed off the cockpit to keep their mitts off
> the
> >>>food and launched.  About an hour into the flight
> home
> >>>my FO says, "I'm stuffed, you want this other
> sandwich
> >>>and dessert?".  I opened the cockpit and looked
> back
> >>>at Billy eating a bag of peanuts and a Coke. 
> "Keep
> >>>eating, we're not leaving anything for those
> >>>assholes".  Sorry, weak story but the best I can
> do. I
> >>>had some wonderful customers flying charter,
> Billy
> >>>was not one of them.
> >>>
> >>>Brad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                                          ---
> Steve
> >>>Alm <salm@mn.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>C'mon Brad, let's have the dirt on Billy Boy.
> >>>>Slim
> >>>>
> >>>>On 1/23/03 4:33 PM, "brad haslett"
> >>>><flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Wally,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Wow, I would love to have been a part of that. 
> My
> >>>>>only exposure to a real President was I used to
> >>>>fly
> >>>>>Billy around when he was boy governer of
> Arkansas.
> >>>>  If
> >>>>>only I had known.  He was one of my least
> favorite
> >>>>>customers, a real jerk in fact, and the "punk
> >>>>kids" he
> >>>>>surrounded himself with were even worse.  We'll
> >>>>get
> >>>>>together over some beers and I'll tell you the
> >>>>whole
> >>>>>story. I got even with the a***, uh, governor
> one
> >>>>day
> >>>>>real good.  Maybe that's why I never got
> invited
> >>>>to
> >>>>>the Lincoln bedroom.  Excuse me, I digress. 
> Nixon
> >>>>was
> >>>>>the first President I ever campaigned for.  I
> put
> >>>>a
> >>>>>"NIXONS THE ONE" bumper sticker on every car at
> >>>>the
> >>>>>Fayette County Illinois fair in 1968 when I
> was,
> >>>>uh,
> >>>>>young.  He is still a facinating man, very
> flawed,
> >>>>but
> >>>>>interesting.  Opening China was brilliant!
> >>>>Clinton
> >>>>>conferred with Nixon several times after he
> took
> >>>>>office.  Nixon loved it.  I can remember the
> day
> >>>>he
> >>>>>resigned like it was yesterday.  He brought a
> lot
> >>>>of
> >>>>>shame to the office that we're still recovering
> >>>>from
> >>>>>today.  And to think, he was in office during
> the
> >>>>>sexual revolution and didn't mess with the
> >>>>interns!
> >>>>>Pity, Pity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Brad
> >>>>>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>Brad,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Back in the early 70s my Dad was stationed in
> San
> >>>>>>Diego. We lived on base
> >>>>>>and the President was coming to visit. We
> headed
> >>>>to
> >>>>>>the Naval Air Station
> >>>>>>and saw Air Force One come in for a landing
> and
> >>>>then
> >>>>>>taxi over to the
> >>>>>>cheering crowd. Nixon came down from the plane
> >>>>>>waving to the crowd and
> >>>>>>stopped to shake hands before jumping in his
> >>>>limo.
> >>>>>>Well Tricky Dick shook my
> >>>>>>hand and patted me on the back. I was only
> >>>>thirteen
> >>>>>>years old and didn't
> >>>>>>know squat about politics but I really liked
> >>>>Nixon
> >>>>>>after that. I mean after
> >>>>>>all he did shake my hand right?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Well a few years later we are living in
> Fairfax
> >>>>VA
> >>>>>>(Dads was working at
> >>>>>>Pentagon then) and Watergate hits the scene.
> Talk
> >>>>>>about bursting my bubble.
> >>>>>>First Agnew is gone and then Nixon announces
> his
> >>>>>>resignation.  My Mom wanted
> >>>>>>us to see history in the making. She loaded up
> >>>>the
> >>>>>>wagon with the family and
> >>>>>>we went down to the White House to witness
> >>>>Nixon's
> >>>>>>infamous exit. We saw him
> >>>>>>walk over to the helicopter, give his big two
> >>>>handed
> >>>>>>wave and fly away in
> >>>>>>disgrace.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It was kind of cool to see all of this first
> >>>>hand.
> >>>>>>It really opened up my
> >>>>>>eyes though and I have not trusted politicians
> >>>>ever
> >>>>>>since.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Wally
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>From: brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>>><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>To: wwrhodes@rhodes22.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
> >>>>list
> >>>>>>><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Social programs.
> >>>>>>>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:05:42 -0800 (PST)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Stan,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>That reminds me of the campaign rhetoric from
> >>>>1992
> >>>>>>>coming from the "pork belly" Senator from NY,
> >>>>>>>remember, "the greed of the 80's".  Much of
> the
> >>>>>>>"paradigm shift" in the "new economy" of the
> >>>>>>nineties
> >>>>>>>was "smoke and mirrrors".  My best friend, a
> >>>>very
> >>>>>>>conservative stock broker, said all through
> the
> >>>>>>boom
> >>>>>>>there wasn't anything to back up the stock
> >>>>prices
> >>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>he was right.  Some CEO's, no, make that a
> lot
> >>>>of
> >>>>>>>CEO's turned out to be crooks. I hope they go
> to
> >>>>>>jail
> >>>>>>>but they probably won't.  Now we're in the
> >>>>middle
> >>>>>>of a
> >>>>>>>recession, business cycle, correction, what
> ever
> >>>>>>you
> >>>>>>>want to call it.  It would have come no
> matter
> >>>>who
> >>>>>>was
> >>>>>>>in office or who ran the SEC just as the
> Tulip
> >>>>>>Bubble
> >>>>>>>burst in Holland several hundred years ago.
> >>>>We've
> >>>>>>made
> >>>>>>>money about as cheap as it can get and people
> >>>>>>aren't
> >>>>>>>spending.  Now we're running up the deficit
> just
> >>>>as
> >>>>>>>FDR did to jump start the economy.  Cutting
> >>>>taxes
> >>>>>>>worked for Reagan, maybe it will work for 43.
> >>>>The
> >>>>>>>truth is, as Richard Nixon lamented, the
> >>>>President
> >>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>either hero or goat as a result of the
> economy
> >>>>with
> >>>>>>>limited means to change it in the short
> run...
> >>>>Ah,
> >>>>>>>Richard Milhous Nixon!  Oh well, save that
> >>>>praise
> >>>>>>for
> >>>>>>>another day Bradley.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Brad Haslett
> >>>>>>>--- General Boats <wwrhodes@rhodes22.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>You are talking about the C.E.O. generation
> the
> >>>>>>>>government coddled after Levitt
> >>>>>>>>left the helm of the SEC, right?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>stan/gbi
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Rik Sandberg wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Rummy,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Absolutely agree that a "helping hand"
> >>>>>>sometimes
> >>>>>>>>is necessary and good. What
> >>>>>>>>>we have now is not a helping hand. The
> better
> >>>>>>>>share of these people are
> >>>>>>>>>doing nothing more than mooching their
> entire
> >>>>>>>>existence off of the rest of
> >>>>>>>>>us. Probably can't only blame either them
> or
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>government for that though,
> >>>>>>>>>as much as we'd like to, WE are letting
> them
> >>>>>>do it
> >>>>>>>>to us. I'm with Steve
> >>>>>>>>>here. Once you let people get used to
> getting
> >>>>>>>>stuff for nothing, not only do
> >>>>>>>>>they eventually stop appreciating these
> >>>>>>benefits,
> >>>>>>>>they soon also expect
> >>>>>>>>>more. Just ask them, they'll tell you they
> >>>>>>>>*deserve* this stuff. Some folks
> >>>>>>>>>just don't have the strength of character
> to
> >>>>>>take
> >>>>>>>>pride in making their own
> >>>>>>>>>way through life. Free handouts uncover
> these
> >>>>>>>>types very quickly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Rik
> >>>>
> >>>=== message truncated ===
> >>>
> >>>
>
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