[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

anima anima13 at bellsouth.net
Mon Jul 21 20:36:06 EDT 2003


I am on the other side of the coin.
I replaced my engine the first year I bought my recycled
Rhodes and the fourstroke has been a dream!! After all,
it starts!! it runs!! I have the local engine guy service it
in the winter. No problem.
Anne
PS Being a patient never improves your patience!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)


Frank,

Judging from the comments made by 4-stroke owners on the list they have not
been reliable at all, and yet those owners keep recommending them to new
owners.  Then the new owners report that their brand new 4-strokes are not
reliable either.

The engines weigh a ton--many are twice as heavy as my 8 hp 2-stroke--people
are getting electric motor lifts because the engines are so heavy.

Many owners originally bought the Honda's for reliability and then switched
to Yamahas.

Owners run their engines at idle for long periods of time, first to get them
warmed up, and then to expel all gas in the system before shutting them
down--thereby totally negating the "gas saving" fuel economy in boats that
only need them for a few minutes to get out of a slip or off a mooring.

"Light weight diesel" is an oxymoron.

Like you, I had hoped that my trusty old 2-stroke would die or get stolen so
I could justify the purchase of the more up-to-date 4-stroke, but, again
like you, that hasn't happened.  Now I'm glad.  My guess is that the
Japanese will develop light weight, fuel efficient, low pollution 2-strokes,
but that my trusty old Tohatsu will never die.

Bill Effros


----- Original Message -----
From: FNuttersNY at aol.com
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)


Well folks interesting engine debate.  I have a 91/2 hp evinrude "sporttwin"
in  a well on my 1973 R22 .  It came with the boat and is at least 30 yrs
old.
 I  almost pulled it out thinking any thing that old and ugly is ready for
the scrap heap.  But I kept it in to give it a try but mounted a  new 3.3hp
2strk John. on a bracket as back up.  Well to my delight the old sporttwin
runs
like a champ. No smoke  no mess and very smooth.  Starts on first pull. I
have
a throttle setup that slides in and out from under the bench with reverse
and
kill switch.  Two strokes have been reliable because the're simple plus they
are light weight.  You get a high hp to weight ratio.    But I would have
thought the new generation 4stks especially Hondas  would be superb and
trouble
free.  I would want them to  befairly light as well.  Is this not so?  You
have
me all wondering. Perhaps a small light weight desel job lurks on the
horizon.
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