[Rhodes22-list] Rudder problems - Update

Saroj saroj at pathfind.net
Sun Jun 1 22:42:31 EDT 2003


I have made huge progress towards getting the rudder problem solved.  Put it
back together and saw just what was impeding it -- fiberglassed right there
and simply too thick.  So I sanded it down some.

Took out all the wood, am gluing some flaky pieces of it, varnishing the 3
pieces 5 - 6 coats -- will put a little thickness on it as well as provide
protection from the elements.

Also discovered that the casing is NOT aluminum, but appears to be the grey
synthetic material - pvc possibly, but doesn't appear the same as pvc pipe.
Thus I have the option of using washers to augment the spacing issue if the
sanding and varnishing don't correct the problem.

Bill, I was curious about your comments re: adjust the looseness or
tightness of the swivel on yours.  Don't you have the two lines and cleats
that will hold the rudder either up or down as well as providing the means
for manually getting it into the desired position?

Has anyone heard or had experience with a Teflon-based slider grease?
Someone mentioned it to me, but don't remember the name of it.

Any other ideas would be welcomed.

Thanks for your help, Bill and Michael.  I'll let you know how it turns out.

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
To: "'Saroj'" <saroj at pathfind.net>; "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder problems


> The bread of the rudder sandwich is called the casing. The rudder, tiller,
> and spacers make up the meat.
>
> Are you sure your rudder casing is aluminum.
>
> I became much more familiar with mine this Spring than I had ever hoped
to,
> and it is made of 1/2" sheet PVC. It's a medium grey plastic material.
The
> spacers are teak on mine.
>
> You very well might need some sort of additional spacers if the teak has
> shrunk down to less than the thickness of the rudder &/or tiller.  I had
> this problem when I sanded and then Varnished my spacers, after building a
> new casing.  My boat club managed to destroy my old one, while the boat
was
> on the trailer early this spring.
>
> I've been messing with adjusting the tightness of the various bolts on
mine
> to try to get the right amount of free fall/tension on my rudder and
tiller.
>
> Washers between the casing and the spacers should work fine, as well. If
the
> casing is indeed aluminum, just use some, Roger help me here, dielectric
> greasw(?) between the casing and the washers.  I seem to recall using
> something that I think was called Tek-Gel when mating two different types
of
> metal to avoid galvanic corrosion.
>
> BB
>
> Bill Berner
> 191 South Broadway
> Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
>
> v 914 478 2896
> f 914 478 3856
> e BBerner at optonline.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Saroj
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:10 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder problems
>
> Well, my boat finally was launched on Friday with new bottom paint and
other
> minor repairs completed.  I have two problems with the rudder.  It does
not
> swivel any longer.  I loosened every bolt and finally took some out
> altogether.  It appears that either the bottom piece is warped or the
pieces
> of wood that act as separators for the aluminum housing have shrunk to a
> size smaller than the part that can be raised.  (I hope someone can tell
me
> the proper names for these things).  I thought I could perhaps insert a
> washer between the wood spacer and the aluminum part, but what about two
> different types of metal touching.  I also considered fiberglassing the
wood
> which would add thickness and also make it waterproof.  Or I could cut
more
> pieces of wood slightly larger thus providing more space.  Any ideas?
>
> Also there are small openings inside the holes where the line goes to pull
> up on the rudder.  Water pours out of these after it has been in the
water.
> Can't be good for it to get all that water in there.  Should I fill these
> openings with epoxy filler to keep the water out?
>
> I'm eager to sail (if it ever stops raining here), but can't until the
> rudder can be swiveled.
>
> Hoping to get this fixed by Thursday to go out over the weekend on the
boat.
>
> Saroj
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