[Rhodes22-list] Link 10

John Tonjes johntonjes at earthlink.net
Wed Jun 4 10:44:48 EDT 2003


Rob,
The motor comes with a wiring harness. You will have to extend the length
of the wires in order to reach the battery. I will assume the battery is
under the V-berth as in most boats. If you look under the starboard cockpit
seat, you will see a passageway into the lazzerette for wiring and
ventilation. On the cabin end under the seat you will also find a passage
into the cabin. The wire will go behind the galley cabinets and into the
flooring, under the head area and into the v berth storage compartment.
When you do the wire splicing, make sure the splices are soldered and then
covered with a heat shrink tubing with sealant inside. This will assure a
longer life than simply wrapping with tape. Now, one thing I would do if
this were my installation is to use a  simple battery disconnect switch
($25.00) in the line going to the motor. Mount it in the battery
compartment.

Rummy


> [Original Message]
> From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 6/4/2003 7:40:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Link 10
>
> Bill,
> OK.  Single battery (for now) with electric start motor with a possible
> solar panel down the road.  Now, how do you route the cables from the
> battery to the motor and what type of connections go to the motor?  Do the
> wires get in the way?  Thanks
>
> Rob Lowe
> S/V Getaway
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Link 10
>
>
> Rob,
>
> Need?  Nah.  But if you had one now you might discover you can run that
> blender as soon as you hook up the Tohatsu.
>
> Here's my reply to Rummy on the same subject a couple of years ago:
>
> Rummy,
>
> I've got the Heart 10/Link 10 also and I love it.  It gives the exact
> information you really want.  For example, your meter tells you you have
100
> amp hours in your battery.  Your meter tells you your lights are drawing
10
> amps.  How long can you run the lights before your battery is dead.
> (Hint--the answer is not 10 hours.)  The meter will tell you how long you
> can run the lights.  The manual explains why the answer is not 10 hours.
>
> I read about Rhodes owners creating floating electric sub-stations with
> another battery in every available space.  If they knew how many amps they
> actually used and how fast they replaced them they would know they simply
> don't need all the extra batteries.
>
> My boat is on a mooring.  I have 2 solar panels.  My electric starting
> Tohatsu puts more power back than it uses.  I use as much electricity as I
> want.  I have never had to recharge the batteries outside the system.  The
> Link 10 instantly and continuously tells me the voltage, amperage, amount
of
> power currently being used, and a pretty good estimate of how much longer
I
> can continue to use the amount of power currently being used.
>
> I never have electrical anxiety.
>
> It's a good system.  My meter is located above the breaker panel--a
logical
> location--the sensor must be located near the battery.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rob Lowe
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
> Bill,
> Thanks so much!  This was exactly what information I was looking for.  Our
> boat has a single battery, no solar panels, and just a voltage meter for
> monitoring battery charge.  It sounds like hooking up the Tohatsu 8 to
that
> battery will work.  No need for separate starting battery and the motor
will
> keep the battery charged (assuming you run it enough, and if it does go
> dead, use the pull starter).
>
> Down the road (once I pay for a new @#$#$% motor), perhaps add second
> battery (to run the blender) and a solar panel to keep up the charge on
> both.
>
> Do you really need the Link 10?  They're a bit pricey.  Thanks!
>
> Rob
> S/V Getaway
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
> Rob,
>
> I have the electric start Tohatsu 8.  Love it.
>
> I have 2 batteries, linked, on board.  One would be sufficient.  Don't
waste
> time or money on a separate "starter" battery.  There is this rope
"thingy"
> on top of the electric start Tohatsu.  You'll never need to use it, but I
> tried it once--you pull on it, and the motor starts.  Ask Rummy.  Then
your
> motor will put electricity back into the battery and you'll be able to run
> lights and things even if your battery goes "dead".
>
> The motor starts so easily you almost always put more electricity back
into
> the battery than you withdrew by starting.
>
> I have 2 batteries, the Tohatsu, and 2 solar panels installed by GB.  No
> regulator.  No problem.  My boat sits on a mooring all summer, in a yard
all
> winter.  (I'm in Greenwich, CT.)  I never remove the batteries.  I have
> never used shore power to recharge them.  The batteries lasted for 5 years
> without a single problem.  I will replace them this year.
>
> I have, and recommend, a Link 10 meter.  It lets me know the exact
condition
> of the batteries at all times.  I use it every time I come on board.  It
has
> saved me a fortune in unneeded extra batteries, regulators, special
> circuits, etc.  Also I don't yell at people who are using what turns out
to
> be insignificant amounts of electricity, of which I have more than enough.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rob Lowe
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:33 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
> I'm getting to the point where a new motor might have to be purchased. 
Took
> the drains out of the gearbox of the old one and a nice, grey material
oozed
> out (homogenized oil and water, I assume).  That plus the inoperative
> reverse and the failure to start problem is pushing me towards a new one.
I
> was quoted $450 to extend a short shaft into a long shaft.  I've looked at
> the used ones on the various web sites but didn't see anything I really
> cared for.
>
>
> I'm looking at the 8Hp Tohatsu/Nissan.  Question, I'm thinking about the
> electric start feature.  Not so much for starting the motor, but I have no
> charging system on the boat as it is.  I was looking at adding a flexible
> mount solar charger, but the cost of those is about what the electric
start
> additional would be.  Any one have an electric start option?  How about
> batteries, wiring, over charge protection, etc.  I've got a battery on
board
> now, but it has to be charged though an external charger.  I would also
like
> to add more electrical devices in the future (like inverter for a blender,
> got to keep up with Rummy).  Any advice is appreciated!
>
> Rob
> S/V Getaway
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