[Rhodes22-list] Fw: [ham] Re: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are waiting for more accurate information

Michael Meltzer mjm@michaelmeltzer.com
Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:51:36 -0500


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From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf@verizon.net>
To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:27 PM
Subject: [ham] Re: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are waiting for more accurate information


> Dear Curiousity-seekers of all kinds,
> 
> I didn't ask for this position, foisted is the word...thanks Stan...
> 
> Anyhow, traveling back from NC on a business trip, so only immediate 
> highlights this round. Also, Stan (and Roger, Michael, et al) are the 
> technical ones, I'm just a guy who likes sailing, got in the demo boat, 
> pulled the sails out, and out jumped a new "Sally". It was cool, but it 
> didn't hit me I was going "where no man has gone before..." til now.
> 
> This was the proto-type made locally. A humpback design (four-sided!) 
> with a vertical batten at the last quarter of the sail. The batten was 
> in the cover that just entered the main slot. Currently, no 
> modification of spars is needed. The overall size is 10% more area, or 
> 110 sq. ft. equal to the standard main. According to its designer, this 
> will increase its speed, and produce a more weather helm, or tend to 
> neutralize a lee helm.
> 
> Sailing the demo boat was a bit hard to judge the differences, I'm no 
> Practical Sailor tester. I'm used to steady winds-these were shifty, no 
> meters here (Stan being an intuitive sailor), 16-18 kts average. The 
> sail was much flatter, this is in combination with new sailcloth that 
> is obviously stiffer. I had it slightly reefed, and the batten keeps 
> the sail flat through all reef points. The greater the reef, the more 
> its effect. What a luff pad does for a gennie, this does for the main.
> 
> It seemed to tighten to the wind for better pointing, and some speed, 
> which was the surprise for me.  The shift aft of the center of effort 
> to a more weather helm is supposed to be the primary advantage. My helm 
> is very neutral (only fingertips on the tiller needed), this part 
> seemed not much different. Hard to tell the difference between 
> different boats. Also, I'm guessing the benefit of the traveler to 
> affect sail shape may be minimal.
> 
> The new sail, second version, is Doyle's take, less humpback, slightly 
> longer foot  to within 2" from outhaul through boom, the leech exceeds 
> topping lift line by at least 5-6" (Stan did the photos for an upcoming 
> color brochure). So this may change things again, but a vertical batten 
> design had been suggested by another sail loft for the R22.
> 
> Awaiting the first serious sea trials, details at 11.
> Jay
> 
> On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Kroposki wrote:
> 
> > Wally,
> >       Your guess is a good as mine.  Stan kind of thru page 38 out of
> > 256 at us.  Not exactly complete information.  See if you are better
> > than me at getting more.
> >                 Ed K
> >
> >
> >
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