[Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging

Jay Friedland a.jayf@verizon.net
Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:12:33 -0500


Wally-
Had to measure and interpolate with Michael's isoceles triangle method. 
Using the higher boom position of 23'3" and 10'9" on the boom, the 
rough squared total of 629 left a 25' dimension. I made a cable at 
22.5' with the balance for block and 6' + line. Getting a small cleat 
on the boom end seems like a trick though, otherwise a horn cleat to 
tie it off.

Jay


On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:06 PM, Wally Buck wrote:

> J,
>
> Well a rough guess......
>
> You want the cable with block to hang low enough for you to reach and 
> high enough to allow you to raise boom. I think I have to stand on the 
> cockpit bench to reach block but it has been a while since I had to 
> rethread line. You don't want to have to go up the mast to rethread 
> line right?
>
> The mast is 26 ft., but with the boom in the highest position it is 
> closer to 22 feet or so (I am guessing here). The boom is about 9 or 
> 10 feet give or take.... 30 feet is going to be long, 16 - 18 sounds 
> short. I would guess at about 19 or 20 feet. It would be better to err 
> on the long side, you could always shorten.
>
> MJM - There is no excess to cleat, the cable has a block at the end. I 
> have a line about 6 feet or so in length attached at the aft end of 
> the boom. This line goes a couple a feet up to the block and back. It 
> is then secured in a cleat on the aft end of the boom.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Wally
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:20:49 -0500
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> That's way to logical. first, it assumes my mast is straight...
>> Really I thought to do a rough this way, but realized the forestay is 
>> 27' and change to the deck, less the cabin, less the height of the 
>> boom above the cabin, so I was about 21'  at 60 degrees...
>>
>> 30'+ doesn't seem right based on that. As i was doing a cable with 
>> nicropress fittings over thimbles, the line could make up the 
>> difference.
>> J
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 03:04 PM, Michael Meltzer wrote:
>>
>>> well lets see c^2=a^2+b^2
>>>
>>> a=+-12
>>> b=+-28
>>> c=30.4 should be about right, add a few feet for cleating, easier to 
>>> cut it and it is cheap line, the mast might be only 26 feet but
>>> doing it off the top of my head
>>>
>>> MJM
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wally-
>>>> How about a rough guess, as I'm heading to the factory this weekend,
>>>> weather permitting, and will need to have a dimension then. Because 
>>>> the
>>>> dimension is non-critical, as it's taken up from block and line, I 
>>>> was
>>>> thinking 16-18'. If Stan had a mast up or could break away from
>>>> production, I could tap him as well. I should be ok if you didn't 
>>>> need
>>>> to visit your boat.
>>>>
>>>> For Rummy, unless I released the line, the boom wouldn't have enough
>>>> slack for lower position. Or are you saying the line is redundant, 
>>>> and
>>>> even a bungee cord would keep it from dragging when furled? You are 
>>>> a
>>>> master of simplicity. I like the idea of controlling the boom from
>>>> excessive swinging in light winds and all. Worth considering.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Wally Buck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> J,
>>>>>
>>>>> If I make it to the boat this weekend I will try to get a photo 
>>>>> and/or
>>>>> some measurements. I think my cable hangs down about 2 or three 
>>>>> feet
>>>>> higher than the boom when placed in highest position.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I could be more exact, sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:12:08 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>> With dead-ending the topping lift for the boom, I'm looking for 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> length of cable with thimbles needed. Using the IMF, I need the
>>>>>> ability to drop the boom to the lower position with block and 
>>>>>> line.
>>>>>> Any recommendations on this?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>
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