[Rhodes22-list] RE: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are
waitingfor more accurate information
Wally Buck
tnrhodey@hotmail.com
Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:37:12 -0500
Jay,
scroll all the way down to see attachments. I was able to view.
Wally
>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>To: jbconnolly@speakeasy.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are
>waitingfor more accurate information
>Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:26:11 -0500
>
>Jim-
>If there's an attachment, it didn't come through.
>
>The leech (loose end) of the sail is only a slight triangle. It's cut high
>to the batten, then drops to the clew. My best guess is the batten is
>about 20" in from the clew. Not sure if all these numbers work. If I knew
>I'd be the source of info, the tape measure would have been out.
>
>Try to resend.
>Jay
>
>
>On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Jim Connolly wrote:
>
>>Jay,
>>
>>I am interested, but as a newbie to the R-22, I am unsure of the
>>tradeoffs
>>and benefits.
>>
>>After adding electric start to the motor, new sails (new 150% genoa and
>>IMF
>>Mk-I (for now ;-)) and new cabin cushions, I am also over my self-imposed
>>limit. :-0
>>
>>Somebody needs to draw a picture. I'll start You described a four-sided
>>sail with a vertical batten. I had an image in my mind something like
>>the
>>one on the left, with ~100 SF IMF Mk-I in blue, ~110SF IMF MK-II in red
>>with
>>the dashed red line a long batten. Now you say the batten is 30" long?
>>
>>After drawing it, I see that the batten wouldn't need to be as long as I
>>had
>>initially pictured in my head. New mental picture is more like the
>>right,
>>with short batten further aft and lower.
>>
>>Is either version even close?
>>
>>Jim Connolly
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jay Friedland [mailto:a.jayf@verizon.net]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:03 AM
>>>To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
>>>Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are waiting for more
>>>accurate information
>>>
>>>
>>>Ed-
>>>You're making a lucky guess (NYC born, NJ-bred). I've lost my edge with
>>>Stan-he offered the demo boat on one of my visits, now I'm the only
>>>source of info on this sail...can't stand the pressure.
>>>
>>>In following debates of Standard vs. IMF over the past few years,
>>>stiffening the sail has been one of the deep divisions in the boat's
>>>performance vs. convenience. I'd love to see Steve, Roger, or another
>>>Standard Mainsail user evaluate it fairly. I'm sure the power of sail
>>>draft will still make the Standard perform better, but it would be
>>>interesting to see how much this closes the gap. Stan's designs always
>>>defy traditional sail controls. He ought to do a manual in his spare
>>>time on Sail Control with the R22.
>>>
>>>The batten itself is about 30" long and really flattens the whole
>>>mainsail significantly, probably even more significantly as the sail is
>>>stretched with use. In a conversation with Tom Deliberto, he had his
>>>gennie designed as a biradial cut to compensate for stretch. He's the
>>>only one I know that has done this, but reefing and stretch are the two
>>>things I've seen affect performance. If both factors can be addressed
>>>this way, I see new main as a big plus. On most other boats without
>>>furled/protected sails, sail life is typically limited to 4-5 years
>>>based on use and wind conditions. With the above improvements, sail
>>>life plus performance, it adds another advantage to the convenience of
>>>the R22.
>>>
>>>However, I'm not sure if I mentioned the CO2 cartridges that are needed
>>>for the new main.
>>>
>>>Did Jim Connolly mention he's waiting on the MK II as the new design?
>>>Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 09:30 AM, Kroposki wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jay,
>>>> I thought you were from New York. Are you telling us that some
>>>>guy from Brooklyn snuck one by you? Oh come on now.
>>>> Ed K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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