[Rhodes22-list] Politics

Mark Kaynor mark at kaynor.org
Fri Apr 2 10:21:17 EST 2004


Wally,

Yeah - we're heading up to the big boat for the weekend this afternoon -
hoping to get in our first sail on her (other than the sea trial). Woohoo!
Hopefully we'll be able to get her out of and back into her slip w/o mishap.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:00 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics


Mark,

No I didn't catch that one but I do check out the Onion on occasion.. The
most frustrating thing about this exchange is Steve lumps anyone who doesn't
share his viewpoint as a liberal and a coward.  It shows his limited ability
to think and reason. I am glad he is an analyst in Arkansas and not TN. We
have enough problems already. I shouldn't be surprised that one who resorts
to assigning labels and calling names can't take a step out side of his box
and consider other viewpoints. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.
:-) i have voted for both Dem and Rep all my life. I try to vote for the
person who I think will do the best job.

It is going to be a hell of an election year.

So is anyone beside me going sailing this weekend?

Wally
>From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:29:46 -0500
>
>Wally,
>
>Did you ever have occasion to see an article on The Onion last year about
>Senator Gronk? It was pretty funny - I just looked for it but haven't been
>able to find it - wish I could.
>
>Basically Senator Gronk is this neanderthalesque guy whose response to
>anything he doesn't understand is "Gronk smash! And smash and smash!".
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Steve
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:18 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
>
>
>Now Wally, when Clinton got a blow job in the oval
>office while talking to a senator; kind of public
>don't you think!!!!!
>
>Clarke is piss off employee that got demoted & is
>trying to sale a Bush hate book.  What else do you
>need me to explain to you.
>Steve
>
>
>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > I thought we were talking about Clarke? Also I was
> > never aware of Clinton
> > recieving any BJs in "public". Did I miss something?
> > Stick to facts. It
> > makes thing much easier.
> >
> > I am not defending Clinton, as I said I never voted
> > for him. This thread is
> > not about Clinton, try to stay on subject. Can you
> > do that? I am not a
> > liberal  but perhaps anyone who disagrees with you
> > is.
> >
> > Reread my posts, your closed mind is getting in the
> > way. I am going to guess
> > you don't get out of Arkansas much.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:56:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Oh give me a break, Wally.  How many blow jobs does
> > >that guy have to get in public to prove he just a
> > >partying country boy who never had a clue about
> > >anything except TAX & Spend!!!!!!!!!  The only
> > >nonsense on this list are the liberal who are so
> > >caught up in hating Bush that they would put this
> > >country in harm way just to get the Liberal back in
> > >power.  Talk about nonsence!!!!!!!!!
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > It would help your cause if you put more than
> > thread
> > > > of truth in your posts.
> > > > I agree that Clarke is trying to sell a book. As
> > to
> > > > the parties, and Clinton
> > > > watching you are just talking nonsense.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > > > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:17:59 -0800 (PST)
> > > > >
> > > > >Come on Bill, Richard Clarke is trying to sell
> > his
> > > > >book.  He spends 8 years under Clinton doing
> > > > nothing
> > > > >but partying, watching the Commandor in Chief
> > get
> > > > blow
> > > > >jobs; then come Bush & its determine he knows
> > > > nothing,
> > > > >has no terrorist plan, at least no one beside
> > him
> > > > >knows about, Bush demotes him & he write a Bush
> > > > hate
> > > > >book.  Surely, you can see that!!!!!!!
> > > > >Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Or, to quote Richard Clarke, "Invading Iraq
> > > > after
> > > > > > 9/11 is like invading Mexico after Pearl
> > > > Harbor."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Effros
> > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   From: Wally Buck
> > > > > >   To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:45 PM
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Japan attacked the US, Iraq did not. How
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > compare the two shows a
> > > > > >   real lack of understanding of both history
> > and
> > > > > > current world events.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   By the way, NC had a "cowboy Republican"
> > for
> > > > too
> > > > > > many years, luckily Jesse
> > > > > >   Helms decided to retire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > >   >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >   >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes
> > 22
> > > > mail
> > > > > > list
> > > > > >   ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >   >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > Date:
> > > > Thu,
> > > > > > 1 Apr 2004 11:16:42 -0800
> > > > > >   >(PST)
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Good thing Bush lower you taxes to make
> > up
> > > > for
> > > > > > all the
> > > > > >   >State tax increases, Stan.  Maybe you
> > need to
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >   >get more Rupublican voted into office
> > there
> > > > in NC
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >   >you would not have those problem.  Maybe
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > >   >wild NC rebulican cowboy that could help
> > you
> > > > > > out:-)  I
> > > > > >   >find it interesting that a business owner
> > > > would
> > > > > > hold
> > > > > >   >the view that you do, Stan.  I work for
> > the
> > > > > > government
> > > > > >   >and see that your analysis is off.  No
> > > > offence
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > >   >call them like they analyze out to be.
> > As
> > > > for
> > > > > > our
> > > > > >   >solders, they signed up to fight; on
> > their
> > > > own
> > > > > > free
> > > > > >   >will.  Surenly you don't think that the
> > > > militery
> > > > > >   >paycheck is jsut the same as a welfare
> > check.
> > > > > > Also,
> > > > > >   >the only reason that we all can sit here
> > &
> > > > voice
> > > > > > our
> > > > > >   >opinions freely is the fact that we have
> > > > militery
> > > > > >   >Bases all over the world with solders on
> > > > ready to
> > > > > >   >fight to protect this country.  That what
> > > > keep
> > > > > > this
> > > > > >   >country free; we fight to keep it that
> > way.
> > > > > > Talking
> > > > > >   >does no good.
> > > > > >   >Steve
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >PS - No offence Stan.  Just my opinion.
> > BTW:
> > > > I
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >   >relative that died in WWII so that you
> > all
> > > > don't
> > > > > > have
> > > > > >   >to speak Japanese.  Maybe we should have
> > jsut
> > > > > > raised
> > > > > >   >the white flag then, we wouldn't have to
> > > > worry
> > > > > > about
> > > > > >   >Irag today - Would have been an Japan
> > > > problem:-)
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> > > > > >   > > sorry - I can't resist
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > As usual both sides score points but I
> > am
> > > > old
> > > > > > enough
> > > > > >   > > to remember that when
> > > > > >   > > Clinton did his military thing the
> > > > republicans
> > > > > > were
> > > > > >   > > screaming for his head
> > > > > >   > > for trying to help the oppressed
> > Muslims,
> > > > even
> > > > > >   > > though he did not lose
> > > > > >   > > American lives in the process.
> > Imagine if
> > > > > > this were
> > > > > >   > > Clinton's war - they
> > > > > >   > > would have hired a hit squad to stop
> > him.
> > > > > > This time
> > > > > >   > > it's a republican
> > > > > >   > > trying to help Muslims and it is the
> > > > second
> > > > > > coming.
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > I would not pick on Geraldo for trying
> > to
> > > > tell
> > > > > > us
> > > > > >   > > some good news - while he
> > > > > >   > > is more liberal than his Foxy brothers
> > he
> > > > does
> > > > > > eat
> > > > > >   > > at the pleasure of those
> > > > > >   > > network divisions of the
> > Murdock/General
> > > > > > Electric
> > > > > >   > > giants.   I would,
> > > > > >   > > however, pick on our media mouthpieces
> > for
> > > > not
> > > > > >   > > picking on leaders who plowed
> > > > > >   > > us into a venture where the facts have
> > > > proven
> > > > > > these
> > > > > >   > > strategist failed their
> > > > > >   > > pre-attack homework.   It may be
> > > > comforting to
> > > > > > cry
> > > > > >   > > over the dead but it is
> > > > > >   > > sickening to see the thousands upon
> > > > thousands
> > > > > > who
> > > > > >   > > come back to us breathing
> > > > > >   > > but leaving so many of their good
> > parts
> > > > over
> > > > > > there.
> > > > > >   > > As has been posted on
> > > > > >   > > these pages, face the facts. It is
> > easy to
> > > > be
> > > > > >   > > satisfied with this just cause
> > > > > >   > > when fighting the computer wars.  But
> > > > would it
> > > > > > still
> > > > > >   > > be a just cause if you
> > > > > >   > > knew you were going to be among those
> > > > > > thousands of
> > > > > >   > > irreversibly altered
> > > > > >   > > returning bodies - or would you too be
> > > > > > switching to,
> > > > > >   > > hell no, we won't go.
> > > > > >   > > If you think this cause worth gambling
> > > > even
> > > > > > part of
> > > > > >   > > you and willing to put
> > > > > >   > > up and follow a wild ersatz Texas
> > cowboy,
> > > > I
> > > > > > respect
> > > > > >   > > you and will shut up.
> > > > > >   > > But I won't be in back of you for this
> > > > one.
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > As long as the economy was put on the
> > > > > > electronic
> > > > > >   > > table I assume by now you
> > > > > >   > > all know that the tax cuts were not
> > tax
> > > > cuts
> > > > > > but
> > > > > >   > > simply redistribution of
> > > > > >   > > wealth.  The savings of my guys has
> > long
> > > > since
> > > > > > been
> > > > > >   > > more than eaten up by
> > > > > >   > > non-progressive increases in gas
> > prices,
> > > > sales
> > > > > >   > > taxes, state income taxes,
> > > > > >   > > real estate taxes, tuition increases
> > > > (which is
> > > > > >   > > really the longest lasting
> > > > > >   > > and most detrimental to the health of
> > this
> > > > > > country -
> > > > > >   > > read Brokaws The
> > > > > >   > > Greatest Generation, tax increases)
> > and
> > > > > > endless food
> > > > > >   > > and commodity price
> > > > > >   > > increases.  We have raised the price
> > of a
> > > > > > Rhodes one
> > > > > >   > > thousand dollars and
> > > > > >   > > that still does not make up for the
> > > > increases
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >   > > steel, and resin and
> > > > > >   > > aluminum and plywood - even with our
> > > > throwing
> > > > > > our
> > > > > >   > > two social security checks
> > > > > >   > > into the pot. I think those who were
> > > > having
> > > > > >   > > difficulty connecting the dots
> > > > > >   > > to our leader's vision of our future,
> > are
> > > > > > beginning
> > > > > >   > > to see the picture. One
> > > > > >   > > of my nightmare visions are the
> > fathers of
> > > > a
> > > > > >   > > balanced budget taking the
> > > > > >   > > national debt to infinity:  Foreigners
> > > > pulling
> > > > > > out
> > > > > >   > > of bonds, interest rates
> > > > > >   > > skyrocketing, the housing starts
> > > > plummeting
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >   > > worse, the record number of
> > > > > >   > > credit card carrying Americans
> > suddenly
> > > > having
> > > > > > a
> > > > > >   > > monthly interest burden
> > > > > >   > > that will burry them - if they could
> > > > afford a
> > > > > >   > > funeral.  As one pundit put
> > > > > >   > > it, Bush had campaigned to bring us
> > > > together
> > > > > > and he
> > > > > >   > > is finally succeeding.
> > > > > >   > > I think we already have enough Slims
> > out
> > > > there
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >   > > put him out to pasture.
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > stan/gbi
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > >   > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > >   > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:01
> > PM
> > > > > >   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > > > Geraldo
> > > > > > Rivera
> > > > > >   > > reports
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > > Interesting Ed.
> > > > > >   > > > I have always thought that Fox was
> > well
> > > > > > balanced
> > > > > >   > > for
> > > > > >   > > > new.  ABC, CBS & NBC are all liberal
> > > > > > networks.  Or
> > > > > >   > > at
> > > > > >   > > > least, I think so.  I also think we
> > are
> > > > > > doing a
> > > > > >   > > good
> > > > > >   > > > job over there.  In the good old
> > days,
> > > > > > helping
> > > > > >   > > poor
> > > > > >   > > > abused people to achive freedom was
> > a
> > > > > > liberal
> > > > > >   > > cause.
> > > > > >   > > > But Clinton did not think to help
> > those
> > > > > > people so
> > > > > >   > > now
> > > > > >   > > > the dems. have to opose it.  At
> > least we
> > > > are
> > > > > >   > > helping
> > > > > >   > > > them.  That whats important.
> > > > > >   > > > Steve
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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