[Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly good tome:-{D>

Todd Tavares sprocket80 at mail.com
Mon Apr 5 15:26:56 EDT 2004 

Steve,

    Now I have only read this one e-mail, since it was top of my inbox, so others may have brought up the same point.  Seeing that Stan took time to post means it probably has.

    Say for instance I make sailboats...no just say widgets.  I sell widgets to a company in France for the equivalent of $10 US.  They cost me $6 to manufacture. (factoring in for raw materials, labor, etc. etc)  So for every widget I sell, I net $4 US.

    So when the dollar loses ground against the Euro, I only get the equivalent of $8 US.  You can see that the intersection of the supply and demand curves (mx+b = P = mx+b), "P" shifts dramatically.
   Sure, I start to sell widgets like a madman, but I now have to sell twice as many.  And now I have to hire another worker to keep up with orders.  To a government analyst, it appears that my sales go off the chart, (gross sales maybe) but my profit is cut by more than half.  But some guy found a job, and the French guy I sell to is taking holiday on Mikinos.  

  BTW  when I was laid off, I was three months out of the Army, my wife had a seven month old baby to care for.  I had not yet passed my union probation which meant that I did not have health insurance.  Besides,  I wasn't living off your dime anyway...it was all of the dimes I had been putting in since I was working from the age 15 and paying taxes.  Of course it would have taken quite a few less dimes if I was living in Arkansas at the time.

  It is good to know that you have never needed a helping hand.  But I am right here if you need it, brother. 

Todd











----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly good tome:-{D>

> Todd
>  
> Since folks seem to need an Econ 101 lession, here it
> it:
> ECONOMISTS, chief executives and Washington policy
> makers have hailed the weakened dollar as good news
> for the United States. After all, when the dollar
> loses value against the euro or the British pound, for
> instance, it should make American-made goods cost less
> in markets that use those currencies. Cheaper prices
> should stimulate bigger orders for American companies,
> especially those in the hard-hit manufacturing sector.
> And, as manufacturers exhaust their ability to produce
> more goods without adding labor, the pace of job
> creation should accelerate
> 
> I glad you have 2 hand & can support you family also. 
> If you don't, that mean I have to.  Thet are not my
> family.  Beside, I hope they are helping you.  They
> all have 2 hands also.  Don't know why you would work
> odd job; McDonald is always hiring.  Your wife & kids
> should have all had jobs, you work & you would have
> been better for it.  Face it, you took the easy way
> out.  Got on food stamps & waited for someone to give
> you a job that you thought wasn't beneight you to do. 
> Lot of people do this.  
> 
> Not one time in my entire life of any of my family
> life did we ever get on food stamps or any other
> welfare program.  Time have been hard a few time in my
> life.  But I don't let the other tax payers support
> me.  Remember, when you are taking money from the
> govenment on one of it welfare program - you are NOT
> supporting yourself.  People like me are supporting
> you.  I'm not rich by any mean - BUT I ALWAYS SUPPORT
> MYSELF.
> Steve
> 
> PS- Aren't Medicare taxes taken out of every paycheck.
>  Incase you don't know the answer; they are.  Even
> though the fact that this is true - People should plan
> for retirement and not leave it up to the government
> to take care of them.  Whats wrong with most liberals
> is that they spend every dine they get thier hands on,
> got to have all the new toys today, NEVER plan for
> tomorrow.  Then when it time for retirement; they
> expect the other tax payers to support them.  And what
> did they do to help themselves; nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > Well Steve,  
> > 
> >    I am still trying to figure out if I am a
> > liberal-conservative or a conservative-liberal. 
> > Since my office is on the top floor of the closest
> > federal building to the White House, (Dept. of
> > Commerce....15th St & Pennsylvania Ave.) maybe this
> > will confuse potential terrorists too, and if they
> > try that plane trick again, I hope they end up
> > parked next to Air Florida flight 90. 
> > 
> >    I guess that being on welfare, makes one a
> > liberal by definition?  
> > 
> >    I just thank God that I have two hands and I am
> > healthy enough to work to support my family.  It
> > could easily be me on that corner with a cardboard
> > "homeless and hungry" sign, so I pitch a few coins
> > into their paper cups when I pass by.  Ask THAT guy
> > if he is a liberal or a conservative of if he
> > agrees.
> > 
> >   I work in a unionized trade where all work is
> > handed by the union hall and lay-offs follow the
> > work.  When I was still an apprentice, I was laid
> > off for several months.  I worked odd jobs and had
> > to rely on food stamps and coupons for milk, bread,
> > baby formula, and diapers.  Was it embarassing to
> > stand in line at the local grocery store and have my
> > neighbors see me paying with food stamps?  Sure! but
> > you know, frankly I didn't care.  My family's
> > "welfare" was more important than my pride.
> > 
> >   Crazy things happen every day.  I could get hit by
> > a bus and my family be forced to accept welfare. (I
> > guess only conservatives are smart enough or rich
> > enough have disability or life insurance) So, you
> > see, I don't like to knock anyone when they are
> > down.  If you think the welfare system is broken and
> > too many liberals are getting a free ride on your
> > dime then write to your congressman with suggestions
> > how to fix it.   
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> >    P.S. I haven't heard you complain about them
> > doggone old people living off your medicare taxes
> > yet?!?!  :-)  Whoooooosh (sound of a can of worms
> > being opened)  LOL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----From: Steve
> > <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> > been belly belly good to me:-{D>
> > 
> > > Don't worry Todd.  My tax dollars will keep
> > flowing
> > > for all the liberals welfare checks.  You all can
> > > count on me:-)  I just hope that when the next
> > round
> > > of attacks on US soil; they hit a bunch of
> > liberals. 
> > > That way no one will expect us to retaliate. 
> > Surely,
> > > you all agree:-)
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >   I try to stay out of the threads about
> > politics
> > > > because quite frankly, I am naive about politics
> > in
> > > > general.  
> > > > 
> > > > But thanks to a few nice fellers here, I'm
> > getting
> > > > quite smart. 
> > > > 
> > > >   I have learned:
> > > > 
> > > > (1) New words (had to look them up) like
> > vitriolic,
> > > > pundit, insular and oligarchic; and even some
> > near
> > > > words like (such as) neanderthalesque, and
> > > > previcating
> > > > 
> > > >  (2)  I learned that trees are a crop and if we
> > cut
> > > > all of them suckers down in California, then
> > those
> > > > million dollar houses would not burn up.  (I
> > guess
> > > > then they wouldn't have anything to crash into
> > when
> > > > they slide down the hillsides either)
> > > > 
> > > >  (3)  (I missed this in ECON 101) If the dollar
> > > > weakens globally, then our products become more
> > > > competitive on the world market.  I am still
> > trying
> > > > to figure out if this is a good thing.
> > > > 
> > > >  (4)  It is Bill Clinton's fault that the World
> > > > Trade towers were destroyed..and (4a)...someone
> > was
> > > > there when he got his "Monica"?!?    
> > > > 
> > > >  (5)  If we want to fight terrorism in a world
> > war,
> > > > then we need to take the fight to where the
> > > > terrorists are.........but where are they? 
> > (still
> > > > scratching my head)
> > > > 
> > > >  (6)  Bill Clinton paid off the national debt,
> > but
> > > > Bush ran it up again (that dirty bastard!!). 
> > And
> > > > NOPE, I am not giving the $600 back!!  Besides
> > it
> > > > trickled down......don't ask where either. :-) 
> > > > (alright...I pissed it away OK? LOL)
> > > > 
> > > >  (7)  If I run all of my credit cards up to
> > their
> > > > limits and get a mailbox full of bills,  am I a
> > > > liberal before I write checks and still have
> > > > "surplus" of money in my checking account and a
> > > > conservative after I pay all of my monthly
> > bills!?
> > > > (that seems backwards to me)
> > > > 
> > > >    Maybe I would be more knowledgeable about
> > such
> > > > things if I cut back to only working 60 hours a
> > week
> > > > -- (trying to make ends meet) -- and start
> > watching
> > > > the news.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > :-)  Todd
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > >
> > >
> >
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