[Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly goodtome:-{D>
Steve
rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 5 19:45:39 EDT 2004
I learn new things everyday, Todd. And I have been
analysing things for 20 years.
Steve
--- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> Marc,
>
> I probably do have it backwards. Too many years
> since I was a freshman in college and taking econ
> 101 LOL. (sorry Steve) /:-0
>
> Todd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Steiger" <Marc.Steiger at dlptech.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:41:33 -0400
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> been belly belly goodtome:-{D>
>
> > Todd-
> >
> > I think you have it backwords on the drop in the
> value of the dollar. If you sell widgets to a
> company in France for $10, and the value of the
> dollar goes down against the euro, then you will
> receive more dollars for every widget sold. A drop
> in the dollar will make it harder to import, and
> easier to export goods and services. It will tend to
> increase inflation because imports will start to be
> priced higher. It will have a negative effect on
> our financial markets because foreigners will get
> their returns in a decreasing value dollar. But it
> will have a positive impact on our exports, and
> therefore a positive impact on the labor markets.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> Behalf Of Todd Tavares
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> been belly belly
> > goodtome:-{D>
> >
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Now I have only read this one e-mail, since it
> was top of my inbox, so others may have brought up
> the same point. Seeing that Stan took time to post
> means it probably has.
> >
> > Say for instance I make sailboats...no just
> say widgets. I sell widgets to a company in France
> for the equivalent of $10 US. They cost me $6 to
> manufacture. (factoring in for raw materials, labor,
> etc. etc) So for every widget I sell, I net $4 US.
> >
> > So when the dollar loses ground against the
> Euro, I only get the equivalent of $8 US. You can
> see that the intersection of the supply and demand
> curves (mx+b = P = mx+b), "P" shifts dramatically.
> > Sure, I start to sell widgets like a madman,
> but I now have to sell twice as many. And now I
> have to hire another worker to keep up with orders.
> To a government analyst, it appears that my sales go
> off the chart, (gross sales maybe) but my profit is
> cut by more than half. But some guy found a job,
> and the French guy I sell to is taking holiday on
> Mikinos.
> >
> > BTW when I was laid off, I was three months out
> of the Army, my wife had a seven month old baby to
> care for. I had not yet passed my union probation
> which meant that I did not have health insurance.
> Besides, I wasn't living off your dime anyway...it
> was all of the dimes I had been putting in since I
> was working from the age 15 and paying taxes. Of
> course it would have taken quite a few less dimes if
> I was living in Arkansas at the time.
> >
> > It is good to know that you have never needed a
> helping hand. But I am right here if you need it,
> brother.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> been belly belly good tome:-{D>
> >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > Since folks seem to need an Econ 101 lession,
> here it
> > > it:
> > > ECONOMISTS, chief executives and Washington
> policy
> > > makers have hailed the weakened dollar as good
> news
> > > for the United States. After all, when the
> dollar
> > > loses value against the euro or the British
> pound, for
> > > instance, it should make American-made goods
> cost less
> > > in markets that use those currencies. Cheaper
> prices
> > > should stimulate bigger orders for American
> companies,
> > > especially those in the hard-hit manufacturing
> sector.
> > > And, as manufacturers exhaust their ability to
> produce
> > > more goods without adding labor, the pace of job
> > > creation should accelerate
> > >
> > > I glad you have 2 hand & can support you family
> also.
> > > If you don't, that mean I have to. Thet are not
> my
> > > family. Beside, I hope they are helping you.
> They
> > > all have 2 hands also. Don't know why you would
> work
> > > odd job; McDonald is always hiring. Your wife &
> kids
> > > should have all had jobs, you work & you would
> have
> > > been better for it. Face it, you took the easy
> way
> > > out. Got on food stamps & waited for someone to
> give
> > > you a job that you thought wasn't beneight you
> to do.
> > > Lot of people do this.
> > >
> > > Not one time in my entire life of any of my
> family
> > > life did we ever get on food stamps or any other
> > > welfare program. Time have been hard a few time
> in my
> > > life. But I don't let the other tax payers
> support
> > > me. Remember, when you are taking money from
> the
> > > govenment on one of it welfare program - you are
> NOT
> > > supporting yourself. People like me are
> supporting
> > > you. I'm not rich by any mean - BUT I ALWAYS
> SUPPORT
> > > MYSELF.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > PS- Aren't Medicare taxes taken out of every
> paycheck.
> > > Incase you don't know the answer; they are.
> Even
> > > though the fact that this is true - People
> should plan
> > > for retirement and not leave it up to the
> government
> > > to take care of them. Whats wrong with most
> liberals
> > > is that they spend every dine they get thier
> hands on,
> > > got to have all the new toys today, NEVER plan
> for
> > > tomorrow. Then when it time for retirement;
> they
> > > expect the other tax payers to support them.
> And what
> > > did they do to help themselves;
> nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > > > Well Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I am still trying to figure out if I am a
> > > > liberal-conservative or a
> conservative-liberal.
> > > > Since my office is on the top floor of the
> closest
> > > > federal building to the White House, (Dept. of
> > > > Commerce....15th St & Pennsylvania Ave.) maybe
> this
> > > > will confuse potential terrorists too, and if
> they
> > > > try that plane trick again, I hope they end up
> > > > parked next to Air Florida flight 90.
> > > >
> > > > I guess that being on welfare, makes one a
> > > > liberal by definition?
> > > >
> > > > I just thank God that I have two hands and
> I am
> > > > healthy enough to work to support my family.
> It
> > > > could easily be me on that corner with a
> cardboard
> > > > "homeless and hungry" sign, so I pitch a few
> coins
> > > > into their paper cups when I pass by. Ask
> THAT guy
> > > > if he is a liberal or a conservative of if he
> > > > agrees.
> > > >
> > > > I work in a unionized trade where all work
> is
> > > > handed by the union hall and lay-offs follow
> the
> > > > work. When I was still an apprentice, I was
> laid
> > > > off for several months. I worked odd jobs and
> had
> > > > to rely on food stamps and coupons for milk,
> bread,
> > > > baby formula, and diapers. Was it embarassing
> to
> > > > stand in line at the local grocery store and
> have my
> > > > neighbors see me paying with food stamps?
> Sure! but
> > > > you know, frankly I didn't care. My family's
> > > > "welfare" was more important than my pride.
> > > >
> > > > Crazy things happen every day. I could get
> hit by
> > > > a bus and my family be forced to accept
> welfare. (I
> > > > guess only conservatives are smart enough or
> rich
> > > > enough have disability or life insurance) So,
> you
> > > > see, I don't like to knock anyone when they
> are
> > > > down. If you think the welfare system is
> broken and
> > > > too many liberals are getting a free ride on
> your
> > > > dime then write to your congressman with
> suggestions
> > > > how to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I haven't heard you complain about
> them
> > > > doggone old people living off your medicare
> taxes
> > > > yet?!?! :-) Whoooooosh (sound of a can of
> worms
> > > > being opened) LOL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----From: Steve
> > > > <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics
> thread
> > > > been belly belly good to me:-{D>
> > > >
> > > > > Don't worry Todd. My tax dollars will keep
> > > > flowing
> > > > > for all the liberals welfare checks. You
> all can
> > > > > count on me:-) I just hope that when the
> next
> > > > round
> > > > > of attacks on US soil; they hit a bunch of
> > > > liberals.
> > > > > That way no one will expect us to retaliate.
>
> > > > Surely,
> > > > > you all agree:-)
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I try to stay out of the threads about
> > > > politics
> > > > > > because quite frankly, I am naive about
> politics
> > > > in
> > > > > > general.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But thanks to a few nice fellers here, I'm
> > > > getting
> > > > > > quite smart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have learned:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (1) New words (had to look them up) like
> > > > vitriolic,
> > > > > > pundit, insular and oligarchic; and even
> some
> > > > near
> > > > > > words like (such as) neanderthalesque, and
> > > > > > previcating
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (2) I learned that trees are a crop and
> if we
> > > > cut
> > > > > > all of them suckers down in California,
> then
> > > > those
> > > > > > million dollar houses would not burn up.
> (I
> > > > guess
> > > > > > then they wouldn't have anything to crash
> into
> > > > when
> > > > > > they slide down the hillsides either)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (3) (I missed this in ECON 101) If the
> dollar
> > > > > > weakens globally, then our products become
> more
> > > > > > competitive on the world market. I am
> still
> > > > trying
> > > > > > to figure out if this is a good thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (4) It is Bill Clinton's fault that the
> World
> > > > > > Trade towers were destroyed..and
> (4a)...someone
> > > > was
> > > > > > there when he got his "Monica"?!?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (5) If we want to fight terrorism in a
> world
> > > > war,
> > > > > > then we need to take the fight to where
> the
> > > > > > terrorists are.........but where are they?
>
> > > > (still
> > > > > > scratching my head)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (6) Bill Clinton paid off the national
> debt,
> > > > but
> > > > > > Bush ran it up again (that dirty
> bastard!!).
> > > > And
> > > > > > NOPE, I am not giving the $600 back!!
> Besides
> > > > it
> > > > > > trickled down......don't ask where either.
> :-)
> > > > > > (alright...I pissed it away OK? LOL)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (7) If I run all of my credit cards up
> to
> > > > their
> > > > > > limits and get a mailbox full of bills,
> am I a
> > > > > > liberal before I write checks and still
> have
> > > > > > "surplus" of money in my checking account
> and a
> > > > > > conservative after I pay all of my monthly
> > > > bills!?
> > > > > > (that seems backwards to me)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I would be more knowledgeable
> about
> > > > such
> > > > > > things if I cut back to only working 60
> hours a
> > > > week
> > > > > > -- (trying to make ends meet) -- and start
> > > > watching
> > > > > > the news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-) Todd
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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