[Rhodes22-list] Virus???

Mark Kaynor mark at kaynor.org
Thu Apr 15 10:13:48 EDT 2004


I called tech support earlier - they're going to do it for free, hopefully
today. It's so much better dealing directly w/ them w/o involving the front
office <g>.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:54 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???


i adgree, thats a lillte to much, why not have your mailer forward it
thought the ISP, It a 2 line hack to sendmail.cf or
postfix/main.cf, basicly use a smart host forwarder macro for outgoing,
nothing should change on the inside clients, leave incomeing
alone(i.e. the mx)


MJM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???


> Michael,
>
> Yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while. My ISP wants an additional
> $10 / mo for it, though, so I've been putting it off - I hate making
monthly
> payments for one-off stuff - all they have to do is add the record, and
> that's it. I've got the servers  at work using reverse lookup, though, and
> really do need to bite the bullet and get it implemented for my home
stuff.
> Thanks for reminding me.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:17 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
>
>
> speaking of that, could you set you set up a PTR (reversedns) for IP
address
>
> Received: from kaynor.org (unknown [216.12.36.150]) .......
>
> I am about to start rejecting email based on that, not to mention aol, rr
> and cox most likely are rejecting you.
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
>
>
> > Rik,
> >
> > Linux rocks! I've been working w/ it off-and-on since kernel 0.82. The
> > overwhelming majority of virii, Trojans, and worms are directed at
> Microsoft
> > products. That combined with the fact that Microsoft's default security
> > settings have historically been a joke makes for bad news for Windows
> users
> > and good news for you. To be fair, however, MS does seem to be paying
more
> > attention to security lately w/ various federal agencies beginning to
> raise
> > Cain (raze cane <g>?) about it.
> >
> > R.e. spam - your ISP probably has a lot to do with it. That and avoiding
> > posting your email address on web sites, etc. I run my own email server
at
> > home and get very little spam from there. I also have an account w/
> > Earthlink - I get tons of spam at that email address. I am listed as
owner
> > or technical contact on many domains - the spammers "harvest" email
> > addresses from wherever they can find them, including DNS records. I get
> > tons of spam at work. Seems like I read recently that about 60% of all
> email
> > is spam these days.
> >
> > As an aside, I recently received an offer to buy over 300 million email
> > addresses that were supposedly harvested from eBay - probably not true,
> but
> > it could be - I don't have the time to check out every piece of spam
that
> > our spam filter catches. I took a quick look at this one, though -
enough
> to
> > see that the email originated from a domain run by a guy with an
American
> > sounding name in California, but owned by someone with a very Russian
> > sounding name in Belarus.
> >
> > And it's way more than just spam or email virii you have to be concerned
> > with. What if Pay Pal or eBay had a customer info security leak?
Personal
> > information stored online is a big, big concern. Seems like almost every
> day
> > some bank or insurance firm (or one of their outsourcing companies) has
a
> > security breach or a laptop or drives or backup tapes stolen that
contain
> > thousands or hundreds of thousands of customer records including SS
> numbers
> > and account numbers.
> >
> > If you're interested, an excellent resource for this sort of news is the
> > SANS Privacy Bits newsletter - it comes out weekly and contains
> > privacy-related news from sources world-wide -
> > http://www.sans.org/newsletters/privacybits/. Sometimes the editorial
> > content is a bit much, but the collection hard news is excellent.
> >
> > The same can be said for my other two favorite resources for security
> > issues, also from SANS -
> >
> > NewsBites http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/ and
> >
> > @Risk http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/
> >
> > They can be a bit technical, but they'll certainly give you a realistic,
> > non-alarmist view of what's happening out there in Internet security
land.
> > It can be a pretty scary place....
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:38 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> >
> >
> > Thanks Julie and Michael,
> >
> > I really don't worry too much about it for myself. I generally run
K-Mail
> > and
> > Firefox in Xandros(linux) for most of my online stuff anymore. These
don't
> > seem as vunerable to these attacks, from what I have seen. I do wonder
> > though, if it is possible for one of these to get into my email and
spread
> > this stuff around without me knowing it. Even though it probably can't
do
> > much to hurt my computer, I do worry that I may inadvertently be
spreading
> > stuff that would do harm to folks still using MS stuff.
> >
> > I do have a firewall (2 actually hardware and softwear) and run
f-protect.
> > In
> > almost a year of using Xandros(linux) I have yet to have found any kind
of
> > virus in it, other than a script I put in myself, to make sure the virus
> > checker was working.
> >
> > Those of you who are tired of all this crap, might consider giving
Xandros
> a
> > try. It's pretty "windows like" as far as using it goes. For me, the
> > iinstall
> > was very simple and quick. There are only a couple of things I need to
> turn
> > on MS for at all, anymore. Though it is not free, @ $89 IIRC, for what
you
> > get, compared to MS prices, it is incedibly cheap.
> >
> > Next question: How is it that some talk about getting 50 or a 100 spam
> > messages a day, and I get hardly any???? Am I just that special? :-) :-)
> Or
> > is this something to do with the difference in ISPs, maybe??? I haven't
> > changed my email address in several years.
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14 2004 07:37 am, Michael Meltzer wrote:
> > > that is correct sir :-)
> > >
> > > ever since "I love you", the writew try to "pick" subject and content
> that
> > > will tick you into clicking, part of the problem is ms it self, long
ago
> > > they should have stopped premitting this type of attachment to be
> > > clickable, the problem is the setting stops all attachments so on one
> sets
> > > it.
> > >
> > > MJM
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:34 AM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virus???
> > >
> > > > Michael,
> > > >
> > > > Lately, I've been getting a ton of what appear to be undeliverable
> > > > returned e-mails.......that I didn't send and don't recognize the
> > address
> > > > on. They have some kind of attachment, which of course I haven't
> opened.
> > > > Is this the newest scam to get us ignorant old farts to open a virus
> > > > attachment???
> > > >
> > > > Keep your eyes open guys. Seems there's a new trick every day.
> > > >
> > > > Rik
> > > >
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