[Rhodes22-list] Hello to a New Boat Owner

Jay Friedland jsail1 at verizon.net
Sat Apr 24 12:21:56 EDT 2004


Just for the record on our trip down memory lane-

My son sail races for his high  school. His coach, Mike Spark, learned 
about boat design and mfg. as an apprentice with Hank at One Design, 
Toms River, NJ on the original R22.
Jay

On Apr 24, 2004, at 10:13 AM, stan wrote:

> only for Ed
>
> Columbian Fiberglass was one of our two CT early contractors.  After 
> picking
> our brains they decided they did not need us and built their own 
> Rhodes 22.
> We actually ended up with both of us showing our versions at the same 
> show
> in Hartford.  My CT attorney quit when my pro se instinct told him to 
> move
> to federal court under the unfair business rules provisions. He then 
> called
> back and said he had over-reacted.  When Columbian's attorney was 
> notified
> we were moving to federal court he advised his client to settle.  It 
> was the
> only time we made money in this business and ever since have been 
> hoping for
> some more knockoffs.  Columbian soon went out of business.  I bunked 
> into
> the manager of Columbian one day and he said that I was the only one 
> that
> could sell that ---- boat.  They had produced very few so their 
> "Rogue" or
> "Prestige" name may have some rarity value.
>
> stan/gbi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:09 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hello to a New Boat Owner
>
>
> Jeff:
>
> In the early years of the Rhodes22, they were made by various
> manufacturers for Stan.  Many of the early models had those 
> manufacturers
> id's.  Ask Fred of Hudson River fame.  His is a unique early Rhodes 
> and has
> an id from a plant in New Jersey.
> Stan does not talk much about the knockoffs and lawsuits.  You maybe
> right.  But Columbia boats came and went into history.  I have been 
> involved
> in the Columbia question before.  They did try making a 22 foot boat, 
> but I
> believe it was a full keel boat.
> Many of the early models had different rigging from later models.
> The maestro of Edenton is still making changes.  Ask Lloyd who was 
> trying to
> analyze the history of the inside tracks and who got them.
> You have not told us, where are you?
>
>          Ed K
>    Greenville, SC
> Sailing on Rummy's lake, aka Lake Hartwell, 960 miles of shoreline.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Dilk
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:52 PM
> To: JSusanj at aol.com; rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from a New Boat Owner
>
> Jeff
>
> 2nd question: I believe the fair leads on the cabin top are for 
> sheeting
> inside the shrouds.
> I have the GBI roller reefing 150% Genoa which if I roll up to 100% I 
> can
> sheet inside the shrouds. works poorly
> I can also furl the Genoa and fly a wire luff storm jib behind the 
> forestay
> and sheet inside the shrouds. this works great.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Bob
> S/V Knot Necessary
>
>>>> JSusanj at aol.com 04/22/04 01:32PM >>>
> My name is Jeff Susanj and let me make one thing perfectly clear to 
> start.
> I do not own a Rhodes 22.  I have recently purchased a 1975 Columbian
> Prestige which in every detail seems to be a Rhodes 22.  I was looking
> through the archives and noted a comment about someone making Rhodes 22
> knockoffs until they were sued.  Well, I think this is one of those
> knockoffs, in fact the first one made by Columbian Fiberglass.  The 
> HIN is
> CFG22001M75F.  The boat has a non IMF main and a hanked on jib.  Since 
> my
> experience has all been with non-furling mains, I will probably leave 
> it
> that way.  However I suspect I will add roller furling to the genoa.  
> My
> other boat is a Chrysler Mutineer and it came with roller furling and I
> really like it, especially when I sail into the harbor (no motor).
>
> Of course, as with any new boat owner, I have questions and I hope my 
> boat
> is enough like a Rhodes 22 (all of the pictures I have seen seem to 
> match)
> that you can help me out.  Actually, the owners' web site has helped 
> me out
> a lot so far.  I already know more about the boat than the guy I 
> bought it
> from and I haven't put it in the water yet.
>
> OK, first question:  Instead of a bar traveler, there is a line with a 
> block
> attached to the backstays.  The mainsheet block attaches to a becket 
> on top
> of the bock and there is another becket under the block.  I understand 
> that
> the earlier boats had rope travelers and I assume this is what I have. 
>  What
> should be attached to the bottom becket to control the traveler?
>
> Second question: On each side deck near the chainplates there is a 
> large
> round fairlead simlar to what is on the jib cars.  What is this for?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me, now and in the future.  I have 
> enjoyed
> the Rhodes 22 owners' site so far and am looking forward to sailing the
> boat.
>
>
> Jeff S.
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