[Rhodes22-list] Side stay Question

Sun Aug 22 22:11:24 EDT 2004

If you can find a stable dock or bulkhead you could slack off mooring lines
(with the bad end of the spreader toward land), use the topping lift to haul
a sturdy line to the masthead (for a better grip), and draft two friends to
careen the boat over until you can reach and inspect the problem.  When you
tilt the hull toward the dock it will move away to the limit of the mooring
lines.  Note:  The last time I did this, careening to starboard, I got a
boat full of water because of a sink drain hose that was cracked at the
thru-hull fitting, so check that first.

<G>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Side stay Question

Julie:

I would like you to stay on this list.  I recommend against fixing
the problem with the mast up.  I know Rummy's drinking buddy, Rodger, can
shimmy up a R22 mast, and I have seen others go up a mast, but this mast is
not stable.  That is the problem.  Again, do not risk injury, like a broken
neck.  Bring the mast down and fix it correctly.  It will stand a few local
storms.

Ed K

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Julie Thorndycraft
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:26 AM
To: stan; The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Side stay Question

Stan,
I might try to get up there with a ladder that is secured to the mast, along
with a friend to help secure it temporarily. Just as a stop gap until we can
lower the mast to put in the screw. I might even be able to reach it from a
ladder on the dock but the dock is pretty wobbly. Dan has lowered and raised
the mast on the water but I haven't and he's out of town. I'm concerned
about the potential for mast failure as we had a thunderstorm last night and
the weather is predicting more today, tonight, tomorrow, etc. I'm sure that
it will be fine with the two inner shrouds holding it but I don't want to
push my luck. So I'll try the ladder along with a gizmo used for putting up
Christmas tree lights on high trees.

As for running the jib sheets to the inside, yes we've tried it a couple of
times and it did allow us to point higher - we had the sail reduced to about
125%. We were racing yesterday and I suggested that we try it on the upwind
legs but my fellow sailors thought we were ok with the full 175. We buried
the rail more than a few times and actually took water into the cockpit on
one occassion - let's just say that the furniture got re-arranged quite
nicely. The winds were probably around 12knots but very gusty and it was the
gusts that put us on our side. Otherwise we were trying to keep it at a
comfortable angle. Don't ask how we did, the race was not handicapped.
Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Side stay Question

> Julie,
>
> Ed is correct - mast has to come down - normally the plastic end fitting
> holds in via its tight fit - if it developed a loose fit and popped out
due
> to a slackened stay, the problem can be permanently avoided by one simple
> sheet metal screw through the aluminum tube and into the plastic - we have
> thousands of such screws if you need one.
>
> Which reminds me that you had mentioned pointing and I asked do you ever
> move the genoa sheets inside the upper shrouds to their cabin side leads
> (easy to do when the fitting has fallen out of the spreader tip fitting)
or
> ever moved the sheets to the cabin top leads inside all of the shrouds (of
> course sail size must be shortened accordingly) and do not recall getting
a
> response.
>
> stan/gbi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Side stay Question
>
>
> Julie:
>
> I do not recall seeing this question before.  I am replying to let
> you know the question is out here.
> I do not know of anyway to get the stay back in the spreader without
> lowering the mast.  Do you have the GBI mast crane?  If you do, the mast
can
> be easily lowered over water.  However, I am not sure that the problem can
> be permanently fixed over water.  Until I see all the parts, I would
assume
> that something is broken and needs to be fixed.  It might be necessary to
> fix the spreader and washer.
> Can someone with their mast already down see what Julie will need to
> do?  Does anybody have a picture.  Todd have you got a picture and
solution
> to this?
>
> Ed K
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Julie
Thorndycraft
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:39 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sidestay Question
>
>
> Just got back in from sailing and sometime during the afternoon, the port
> sidestay popped out of the spreader. I have two questions:
> 1) Any suggestions on how to get it back in without dropping the mast?
> 2) How can I keep it from popping out again - I seem to recall that it was
> loose the last time we had the mast down but I don't know how it is
secured
> inside the spreader arm. Can someone educate me on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Julie
> s/v Blue Loon
>
>
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