[Rhodes22-list] Rogue waves

Chris Geankoplis napoli68 at charter.net
Thu Aug 26 11:31:26 EDT 2004


Unlike Slim I am technically a Rogue.  I live in the Rogue Valley, I go
white water rafting on the Rogue River and my behavior well enough said.
But if you really want to know about Rogue Waves See:
DISCOVER magazine, Vol. 25 no. 7  July 2004 issue page 48.  "The Phyusics of
Pure Hell at Sea".  It has lots of info data and for Roger, math!  Oh yes,
lots of picture for the rest of us!

Chris Geankoplis
S/V Passion
Medford, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rogue waves


>Lou,
>
>All of the wave theories I am familier with attempt to predict the median
>size wave or give some description of the probability distribution of wave
>heights as a function of such parameters as wind speed, fetch distance,
>water depth, storm duration, etc.  Wind & storms always generate a
>probability distribution of wave heights.  By definition, a rogue wave is a
>low probability event and all of the wave prediction theories tend to be at
>their absolute worst accuracy in predicting out on the tails of the
>probability distribution.  One of my favorite books on the subject is:
>
>Paul D. Komar, "Beach Processes and Sedimentation", Prentice-Hall, Inc.,
>Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1976
>
>The reason I like this book is because the author mostly concentrates on
>wave behavior in relatively shallow water near shore, which tends to be
>where we sail our Rhodes 22's.
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lou Rosenberg" <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:06 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rogue waves
>
>
>> >Roger,
>>
>>    Do  you have any formula for predicting the appearance of rogue
>> waves in severe storms in the northern hemisphere with physics?
>> oceanography?
>>   just curious:)
>>   Lou
>>
>> >  >From structural mechanics, the deflection of our model beam is given
>by:
>> >
>> >d = P * (L^3) / (16 * E * I)
>> >
>> >Where:
>> >d = beam deflection (inch)
>> >P = point load in center of beam (lb)
>> >L = unsupported beam length (inch)
>> >E = modulus of elasticity of beam material of construction (lb/inch^2)
>> >I = moment of inertia of beam cross sectional shape (inch^4)
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