[Rhodes22-list] Consulting

Sun Aug 29 09:36:49 EDT 2004

Michael doesn't need to smoke.... he generates his own rare air and
high-inducing vibes.  :)

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Consulting

>
>    Question #1:   What have you been smoking?
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Michael Meltzer
>    Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:33:15 -0400
>    To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>    Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Consulting
>    > The problem is only 200+- people might be interested, if you get 200
>    people to put up 100$ each that should do it, I would download
>    > the mail archive(it come zipped up) and the FAQ, the editor job
>    would be to form the questions from both and than have stan form any
>    > answer for each, 20$ per answers, 15,000 for the first 750 answers
>    and 5000$ to put it together and edit it. ?
>    >
>    > MJM
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > ----- Original Message -----
>    > From: "Bill Effros"
>    > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>    > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:38 AM
>    > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Consulting
>    >
>    >
>    > Lou,
>    >
>    > Stan i s in the business of building and rebuilding boats. That's
>    how he earns his living. Every time he helps people on this list
>    > for free he hurts his business. There is no money in it for him to
>    try to compete with West Marine in the portlight and caulk
>    > selling business.
>    >
>    > As you have discovered, the cumulative wisdom of people on this list
>    is not always correct. If he were business smart, Stan would
>    > let competing boat rebuilders spend a lot of time and money messing
>    up their boats to the point where they would come on the list
>    > and say "Don't make all the mistakes I have made--buy your boat from
>    Stan!" But that's not who he is, and we all know it.
>    >
>    > We also know that most of the people who ask for free advice or
>    "borrow" his intellectual property don't see the harm in what they
>    > are doing. My question to you and others is how can we pay Stan for
>    the services he provides? I'm sure everyone sees the value in
>    > this, but no one has proposed a fair method short of buying boats
>    from him.
>    >
>    > I know people who earn a living consulting on how to apply the
>    methods I describe in my book, How to Sell Your Home in 5-Days. I
>    > have no problem with that, as long as they always make it clear that
>    what I had to say is in the book, and that I don't endorse
>    > either them, or what they have to say.
>    >
>    > People pay $100 an hour to get advice over the telephone, and $5,000
>    for someone to come to their homes while they are in the
>    > process. Would you pay Stan for the advice he now gives for free?
>    Would you pay someone else on the list? Would others? Would
>    > you pay Stan to do all the things you now must ask him how to do?
>    Would you pay others?
>    >
>    > When Stan goes, all this knowledge goes. If there is no money in
>    Stan's business, no one will continue it when Stan tires of it.
>    > We are 200+ people with a vested inte rest in maintaining this
>    knowledge base. Every time one of our more active members moves on to
>    > another boat or another hobby we lose information and the ability to
>    correct misinformation.
>    >
>    > Our FAQ information is great but conflicting. Newcomers want to get
>    it from the horse's mouth. They don't want to sort out a lot
>    > of conflicting opinions. They simply want to know the right way to
>    do things.
>    >
>    > Somebody must pay the price for this. Who will it be? What is a fair
>    method?
>    >
>    > Bill Effros
>    >
>    > ----- Original Message -----
>    > From: Lou Rosenberg
>    > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>    > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:42 AM
>    > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] port light replacements
>    >
>    >
>    > Thanks Ed,
>    > I am replacing the portlights ( side windows) .
>    > Still hoping to hear from Stan/gbi when he's available.
>    > Lou
>    >
>    >
>    > On Friday , August 27, 2004, at 09:36 PM, ed kroposki wrote:
>    >
>    > > Lou,
>    > > Who were you referring to?
>    > >
>    > > On replacing lights, there are some experienced Rhodies out there
>    whose
>    > > advice will be better than mine. So while you are waiting for
>    their
>    > > replies
>    > > consider the following:
>    > >
>    > >
>    > > http://www.orcagreen.com/
>    > >
>    > > http://www.superbrightleds.com/1157.htm
>    > >
>    > >
>    http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/marine_product.asp?pnum=3310
>    > >
>    > > Ed K
>    > >
>    > >
>    > > Stan was right AGAIN folks!
>    > >
>    > > My boat is doing fine, I have removed a leaky portlight and need
>    to
>    > > find replacement frames for the old style ('81 boat) any
>    suggestions???
>    > > thanks everyone.
>    > > Lou
>    > > you have got to learn to listen to god.
>    &g t; >
>    > >
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