PHRF Seaward 26 Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Sun Feb 1 14:39:05 EST 2004


I do not know, I have to ask the sales man, but I supect he does not know either, the boat s only been out a few months, found some
270 for the seaward 25, but the 26 has a better foil and a little longer waterline. BTW the boat is a litte undercaved about the
same mast hight as the rhodes22.

MJM



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: PHRF Seaward 26 Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel


> Michael
> Do you know what the PHRF is on the Seaward 26?
> Steve
>
>
> --- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> > here the story as I know it and I do not know if I
> > have all the details, got it from some quickly phone
> > calls.
> >
> > 1)Monday night/Tuesday mooring, Eltion was moving
> > boat north for the boat show, the seaward26 in this
> > case. remember he needs to
> > take two boats to Chicago(the rhodes22 was already
> > propositioned 60 miles from the show), The "working
> > under time pruesser" is what
> > got him, at least in my option, A bad thing to do
> > with sailboats :-)
> >
> > 2)That was the night of the storm, about 120 miles
> > north of the plant on 295, going 50 mph(claims
> > everyone was passing him). road
> > were dry, so into a turn near a exit ramp and hits
> > black ice(My option he drove into the frezing rain
> > part of the storm but that
> > 20/20 hind sight, 120 miles south on the coast the
> > road might have been fine when he left the plant, my
> > option.
> >
> > 3)jackknife, boat trailer/van go spinning, his van
> > loose the running board, trailer looks like it
> > smashed into the side of the van,
> > trailer very bent up, fount coupler and bar bent to
> > hell, trailer messed up where is meet the van. boat
> > is flung from the
> > trailer(remember he in the right lane, boat ends up
> > in the center strip, 2-3 lane wide road), lands on
> > the keel. Their was some snow
> > that protected the finish form "road rash" and the
> > only damage is the lead bulb came off where is
> > landed on it(BTW about 400 pounds
> > on the 1200 of bassist), not bad at all considering,
> > no crack, no buckheads broken, no hull
> > broken/cracked,  mast hardware fine
> > etc..., bottom line the boat came thought fine and
> > better than could be expected.
> >
> > 4)"Eltion is Fucked time", Think what you would
> > do:-) it is not pretty, in the middle of nowhere,
> > van  smashed, trailer smashed,
> > boat on the side of the road, alot of money invested
> > in a boat and a boat show. Lots of money flowing to
> > make things happen, OK gets
> > the trailer into a weild shop and they fix up it up
> > along with the van. thats tuesday. gets a hold
> > craine services for wednesday
> > morring to get the boat on the trailer, but they
> > need to close 295 to do it, calls the cops at first
> > they where delaying for a few
> > days then he told them he is getting the boat on the
> > side of the road, "You are the boat man", apparently
> > he is famious that every
> > cop known the story on that strech of highway. He
> > tells them about the boat show and they let him use
> > the crane 900am.
> >
> > 5)late and behind time he makes it to the show, but
> > turnes it into a great marketing optiunity to show
> > how strong the boat is, got
> > to love the guy.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > I am sure thier move but he have fill you in.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> >
> >
> > > So what the heck happened?  Everyone is OK right?
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:54 -0500
> > > >
> > > >I heard stan make a quote, "I guest we should use
> > straps" :-), I not shore
> > > >it would have made a difference in this case, I
> > waiting
> > > >for the pictures but the trailer got turned into
> > a pretzel, spent a day in
> > > >the weild shop being rebuilt. The boat would have
> > simply
> > > >rolled with it attached and then broken apart,
> > maybe sending a beam thought
> > > >the hull, happened before.
> > > >
> > > >MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Didn't we have a discussion about the
> > durability of the Bulb Keel
> > > > > recently?
> > > > >
> > > > > And I think back, it was Elton who told me
> > that I did not need cross
> > > > > boat tie down straps when I got my boat.
> > Humm?  Would a strap across
> > > > > the cockpit have been worth the twenty bucks
> > it cost?
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  _/)
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >                                      Ed K
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:42 AM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
> > adventure
> > > > >
> > > > > Both the Seaward and the Rhodes 22 are being
> > offered at a $2000
> > > > > discount at the show.  Given what happend the
> > Seaward is in remarkable
> > > > > shape
> > > > > with the exception of the bulb keel, which did
> > not survive the 70 mph
> > > > > "grounding".
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
> > adventure
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe GB will have a scratch and dent sail,
> > er I mean sale .....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "keith burkhardt"
> > <mkburk at adelphia.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
> > adventure
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:03:57 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I just got back from the  chi boat
> > show...Elton had  the Seaward in
> > > > > tow
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >it slipped offf the trailer ,,,He has great
> > pics of this adventure
> > > > > and
> > > > > was
> > > > > > >able to reload the boat abd got it into the
> > show today...I looked at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >Seaward and there appears very little
> > damage...It was the talk of the
> > > > > show
> > > > > > >and many folks visited the area..reagards
> > keith
> > > > > >
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