[Rhodes22-list] R22 rating

Wally Buck tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 9 17:35:06 EST 2004


PT,

No problem, I knew what you meant.

Wally


>From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 rating
>Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 17:16:17 -0500
>
>Oops- Sorry Wally!  You're the series leader, not Andy- right?
>
>-PT
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:34 AM
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] R22 rating
>
>
> > Andy & Peter,
> >
> > My club has always used PHRF but for some reason decided to change this
> > year. Last year (my first racing the R22) they had me at 270 for the 
>PHRF
> > rating. I tried to get some cxonideration for having IMF main but no go. 
>I
> > started late and missed too many races to place well.
> >
> > This year I am in from the start and I am sailing with a 98.0 Portsmouth
> > rating. Again I think this is for the standard main but it is the only
> > number to go by. There is a bit of guess work involved in  rating for 
>the
> > various wind conditions. There is not enough data on the Rhodes 22 out
> > there.
> >
> > I didn't buy my Rhodes 22 for racing as I am more of a cruiser/camper
>type.
> > I thought it would be fun to give it a try because I hadn't raced a
>sailboat
> > in 30 years. I am going to try to stick with it the whole year, we only
>race
> > once a month with no racein July. So 4 races down and about 27 to go 
>....
> >
> > Fair Winds,
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: <lessard at fabulousfloors.com>,"The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 rating
> > >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 07:01:06 -0500
> > >
> > >Andy,
> > >
> > >Congratulations on your victory!  And thanks for upholding the racing
>honor
> > >of all your fellow Rhodies.  Isn't racing fun?
> > >
> > >US Sailing lists the Rhodes Continental with a Portsmouth handicap of
>98.0
> > >(D-PN). http://www.ussailing.org/portsmouth/tables03/tables03off-3.htm
>The
> > >various Beaufort Scale ranges for R22  are left blank in the table,
> > >indicating that US Sailing has not collected enough data on the R22
>racing
> > >against known one-design classes (Thistle is the benchmark) to 
>establish
> > >good Portsmouth ratings for those wind ranges.
> > >
> > >Comparing the R22 D-PN (98.0) to that of my Tanzer 16 (97.5) , and also
> > >knowing that an R22 would quickly leave a Tanzer 16 going upwind in any
> > >breeze above 8,  I think 98.0 is a conservative handicap the Rhodes.  
>For
> > >R22 racers, that is "a good thing".
> > >
> > >Is your club racing with Portsmouth or PHRF?  The R22 is of a medium 
>size
> > >that could be scored under both systems, but judging from the bigger
>boats
> > >you mentioned (J33), it might be PHRF.
> > >http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/what_is_phrf.htm
> > >
> > >If it's PHRF, you would have to contact the local committee to learn 
>how
> > >they rated you.  Further, if you win often, they will likely consider
>your
> > >rating "wrong" and lower it - giving others a better chance.  I seem to
> > >recall PHRF ratings ranging from 258 to 275 for R22 - but it's entirely
>up
> > >to the local committee.
> > >
> > >My R22 "Phoenix" is a project boat on shoring supports waiting warmer
> > >weather to begin renovations.  I race a Tanzer 16 from April to October
>and
> > >frostbite a Starwind 19 keel/cb (see picture below).  Last Saturday we
>took
> > >the Starwind club racing in Greensboro and had similar conditions to
>those
> > >you describe (perfect winter sailing for those with the right 
>clothing).
> > >Unfortunately, the sailors voted against going out that day - too many
> > >centerboard voters.
> > >
> > >It sounds like you had a great day, though!
> > >
> > >PT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Andy Lessard" <lessard at fabulousfloors.com>
> > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:41 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Saturday at the races
> > >
> > >
> > > > What handicap rating do you have on the Rhodes 22?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:22 PM
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Saturday at the races
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warning shameless bragging below ....
> > > >
> > > > We had our February races yesterday. After 3 races in January I was 
>in
> > >first
> > > > place and I really wanted to do well. The forecast was calling for 
>20
> > >plus
> > > > with strong gusts. Temps were supposed to stay in the 30s with a 30%
> > >chance
> > > > of snow. Saturday morning looked okay so I headed out to the marina.
>We
> > >only
> > > > had 7 boats for the skipper's meeting but everyone voted to go out.
> > > >
> > > > We had 4 boats in the "A" Fleet (J33, Hunter 34, O'Day 28, and a
> > >Seaward
> > > > 23. The "B" Fleet included a C30 (crew of 3), Newport 28 (crew of 
>2),
> > >and
> > > > me. The A fleet usually has crew of 3 or more and the B fleet is
>single
> > > > handlers or boats with crew that don't want to fly spinnaker. We
>usually
> > > > have a bunch more boats in each fleet but the weather kept the sane
>ones
> > > > home.
> > > >
> > > > Heading out the weather was fine, a nice wind but nothing like the 
>20
> > >plus
> > > > forecasted. As the actual race count down approached the wind jumped
> > >from
> > >10
> > > > -15 to something like 15 - 25. Plenty of white caps now and of 
>course
>it
> > > > started to snow. I have good gear so I was dry and warm. I started 
>out
> > >with
> > > > main lowered and furled and my 125 out all of the way. The boat was
> > >balanced
> > > > but twice gusts had me taking water over the rail. I furled the 
>genny
>in
> > >a
> > > > little more and was fine for the long beat upwind. The Catalina 30
>soon
> > > > pulled out of the race because they had way too much sail up and the
> > >guy's
> > > > wife and crew were freaking out. You could hear yelling across the
> > >water!
> > >So
> > > > now we were down to 6 boats.
> > > >
> > > > I had a great start (first over) but the J33 flew by me. Like many J
> > >boats
> > > > you sit on the deck. Waves were rolling down the side and they were
> > >already
> > > > soaked with crew scampering across the deck. I was nice and dry
>drinking
> > >my
> > > > cup of Joe with the CD-player on. After the Catalina 30 pulled out I
> > >only
> > > > had to stay close to the Newport 28. Well the Newport was forced to
>put
> > >a
> > > > reef in soon after the start so I was able to build a huge lead. The
> > >snow
> > > > quit and the wind kept blowing. Our windward mark was a big island 3
> > >miles
> > > > down river for a race total of about 8 miles. For the run home I
>raised
> > >the
> > > > boom and let everything out. I hit 7.3 MPH on the GPS. The A fleet
> > >finished
> > > > well ahead of me but I finished over 30 minutes ahead of the Newport
>28.
> > >The
> > > > C30 did not finish so I got First Place in my fleet.
> > > >
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