[Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?

[William P. Barry, III]

Indeed. Forget to mention that we were in Hilton HEad South Carolina when we
made the trip up to Charleston to see it last summer. Have seen it, just not
surveyed. Don't want to pay surveyor if he wants more money then we weill
ever pay.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?


> maybe I am old fashioned, but do you not visit a boat before bidding?????
>
> MJM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
>
>
> > hasn't been one yet, have to find an agreement on price first. Won't
know
> > till Monday.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> >
> >
> > > use it in good health, so how did the inpection go?
> > >
> > > MJM
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > >
> > >
> > > > The 326 should still controllable under single captain. Big jump
from
> > the
> > > > 22, but the biggest reason is cabin space. With 2 separate berths,
A/C
> > HEat,
> > > > and all the other extras hopefully our sailing season will get a
little
> > > > longer, and we can add a lot more weekend sailing to our summer
agenda.
> > Even
> > > > with rain now the weekend shouldn't be a total loss. Cabin fever
won't
> > set
> > > > in as quickly. Especially when it comes to our former process of
> > bringing
> > > > all the canvas home to let dry out.
> > > >
> > > >     Will
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I put an other thought, make sure the surveyor, has No connection
to
> > the
> > > > boat yard and/or the broker, The broker will never give you
> > > > > someone that might kill a sale.
> > > > >
> > > > > Might be a great deal, OTOH something still is a little strange
here,
> > It
> > > > would be interesting to read the paper work that went to
> > > > > the insurance company and the lawsuit, keep in mind someone had to
> > prove a
> > > > case here and thier must be a papertrail, Like what they
> > > > > really were sueing for, and what they were claiming for damages.
> > Somehow I
> > > > would bet that that you never get it.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW are you real sure you are not buy to big of a boat here? It
going
> > to
> > > > have to move on it's hull and simgel handing might be out?
> > > > >
> > > > > MJM
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We will have a survey if it gets the nod.  My understaning from
the
> > > > dealer
> > > > > > is the it was exposed to a crude spill from upstream in the
river.
> > the
> > > > > > exposure was external from the water line down to however thick
the
> > oil
> > > > was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Russ
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:13 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Russ &/or Will?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried to answer your question as I understood it, "Did
exposure
> > to
> > > > an
> > > > > > oil
> > > > > > > spill damage the FRP composite hull or the epoxy barrier
coat?"
> > My
> > > > data
> > > > > > > indicates that damage from this source was very unlikely.
> > However,
> > > > there
> > > > > > > are many other ways the boat might have been damaged.  If in
> > doubt,
> > > > before
> > > > > > > spending the money, have the boat surveyed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:38 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roger_
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > First, are ytou sure, not that I doubt your hypothesis, but
this
> > is
> > > > a
> > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > defision, lots of $$$$$.  I told Wyls to consuklt you
> > specifically
> > > > since
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > have thew techincal expertise to advise us on thew integrity
of
> > the
> > > > boat
> > > > > > > > given its problems??,  it was cleasred by the insurance
> > > > > > company/litigation
> > > > > > > > about july, 2003 and is still available
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Russ
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:15 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Will,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, I just got back from campus.  I wasn't certain, so I
> > looked up
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > chemical service compatability of polyester & epoxy resins
in
> > > > aromatic
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > normal hydrocarbons at room temperature in my copy of
Perry's
> > > > Chemical
> > > > > > > > > Engineer's Handbook.  Both types of resins are listed as
being
> > > > > > suitable
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > long term service in these chemicals.  Therefore, I would
> > expect
> > > > that
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > exposure to the oil spill did not do any damage to the
hull
> > beyond
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > discoloration.  Hopefully, this sets your mind at ease.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:55 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ROGER QUESTION?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Roger et all:
> > > > > > > > > >     Thought maybe you might be able to answer this
question
> > with
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > expertise better than anyone else we know... We currently
have
> > > > found a
> > > > > > > New
> > > > > > > > > 2002 32 foot boat. Just got out of lawsuits, and legal
issues
> > last
> > > > > > > summer.
> > > > > > > > > Commisioned in August 2003. The boat was the victim of an
oil
> > > > spill by
> > > > > > > > > evergreen. Had a barrier coat, as well as bottom paint.
The
> > only
> > > > > > > > noticeable
> > > > > > > > > defects of the boat was minor discoloration on the bottom
> > paint on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > starboard side. As of now the hull is fine. Are there any
long
> > > > term
> > > > > > > > effects
> > > > > > > > > that might become an issue, and how bad would they be? As
of
> > now
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > pricetag on the boat could be a very good deal however, we
do
> > not
> > > > know
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > effects of oil on fiberglass even with the protection, or
how
> > > > likely
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > if any.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >         Will Barry/ Russ Miller
> > > > > > > > > >
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