[Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials

Steve Alm salm at mn.rr.com
Sat Jan 24 16:47:39 EST 2004


C'mon, Bill, go easy on the poor girl.  I'd guess that something she would
want to defend on a 22 ft. boat would be her family.  If Sir Peter Blake had
known that they were only after trinkets and the dinghy, there might not
have been gunfire.  Hindsight is 20-20.  But you don't know what their
intentions are ahead of time.  Certainly there is a time NOT to shoot and
that's where good solid training and education come into play.

Slim

On 1/24/04 4:11 PM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Saroj,
> 
> Don't do it the way Sir Peter Blake did it.  When pirates boarded his boat
> anchored at the mouth of the Amazon he went for his gun, and they killed him.
> The other 9 crew members lived.  The pirates took some watches and a dinghy.
> 
> What possession could you possibly have on a 22 foot Rhodes sailboat that is
> worth your life?
> 
> As I read this tripe, Roger says he needs his gun to protect himself from his
> own government; Rik needs his because he lives in a bad neighborhood; now you
> seem to fancy yourself as a middle aged female defender of the high seas.
> 
> What's wrong with you?
> 
> I can make a case for gun ownership, but you are making a very strong case
> against it.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Saroj 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials
> 
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I would like to turn this conversation to ways and means of storing and
> using guns while cruising. We hope to do that extensively in the future.
> Want to know how to manage it.
> 
> Saroj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> To: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials
> 
> 
>> Saroj wrote:
>>> I'm with you on this one...
>>> For myself, I'm planning to learn to shoot
>>> a hand gun, rifle and shotgun...
>> 
>> May I offer a few words of advice?
>> 
>> I'd start with a pump scatter gun with the
>> shortest legal barrel and pistol grip rather
>> than shoulder stock.
>> 
>> Reasons?
>> 
>> If you use a pump, the sound of the action is
>>      generally enough to clear the area.
>> 
>> The configuration of short barrel and pistol
>>      grip looks quite ready for serious close
>>      action business...
>> 
>> The sight of a big hole in the end of a weapon
>>      tends to reduce the chance of an argument.
>> 
>> Shotguns (esp. short barrel) make a BIG noise.
>>      Your warning shot cannot be mistaken for
>>      a welcome.  And other than some damage to
>>      wallboard and siding, it is a cheap way
>>      to prevent legal consequences.
>> 
>> These factors may (hopefully) result in a
>>      bloodless and rapid retreat of the intruder,
>>      and no problems with paperwork and
>>      bureaucrats after the fact.
>> 
>> Otherwise:
>> 
>> Shotgun requires least accuracy under pressure.
>>      The decision to cause massive injury or
>>      death in another human is stressful, if
>>      not paralyzing.  Anyone would tend to be
>>      up tight defending their home.
>> 
>> Small to medium size shot generally doesn't
>>      penetrate walls and injure neighbors, etc.
>>      Minimal collateral damage is a good thing.
>> 
>> If you have trouble with the recoil from a 12
>>      gauge, a 16 or 20 gauge also works.  But
>>      generally, the bigger, the better -- more
>>      noise, bigger hole, and more pellets.
>> 
>> In any case, congratulations on your decision to
>> undertake a citizen's responsibility to learn how
>> to exercise your rights.
>> 
>> Very respectfully,
>> Robert Skinner
>> 
> 
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