[Rhodes22-list] Critical Standard MainsailStandingRigDimensionsFor Rhodes 22

[Lloyd Crowther]

Rob,

My '86 also has a downhaul.  It also does not have holes above the mainsail
gate on the mast.  My downhaul attaches to a cleat located near the bottom
of the mast on the starboard side.

Lloyd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Critical Standard
MainsailStandingRigDimensionsFor Rhodes 22


> Lloyd/Sarjo/Roger,
> More interesting information.  My 76 (RC 249 I believe is what my main has
> on it) has neither a rotating boom, nor reefing points, in addition to
> lacking holes above the mainsail gate on the mast.  It does have a
downhaul
> line on it, but nothing to cleat it off to.
>
> Rob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> To: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Critical Standard Mainsail
> StandingRigDimensionsFor Rhodes 22
>
>
> > Sarjo,
> >
> > The boom on my '84 Rhodes is nine feet six inches long and it has that
> same
> > furling feature of pulling it aft (maybe it is then 9'8") to rotate the
> boom
> > and supposedly roll the mainsail around it that you describe.  However,
I
> > also am able to reef my main to the reefing points with a system
> consisting
> > of two lines that are fed through grommets in the main in line with the
> > reefing points, which is the system I use.
> >
> > I always felt that the feature of rotating the boom was a pain in the
A**
> > when I was trying to furl the main on the boom after taking the bolt
rope
> > out of the mast but since I now have slugs on the mainsail luff ( but
not
> on
> > the boom) the mainsail stays attached to the mast and is easy to furl
and
> > fits much better under my sail cover when I am buttoning up after
sailing
> > single-handled.
> >
> > To those of you who responded to my query about Mainsail slugs last
> winter,
> > thank you.  I had them put back on minus the slug at the headboard and
> that
> > solved the problem.  Incidentally the boss at the sailmaker (previously
> > named) told me I (you-all) was (were) crazy  but agreed to do it after I
> > pointed out that I was paying for it and with the cash came the right to
> be
> > crazy!  A costly lesson for me but not for him because I had cut all the
> > original slugs off after I couldn't get the main all the way up and I
> wanted
> > to go sailing.  At least I kept the slugs which cut the price down
> somewhat.
> >
> > Lloyd
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Critical Standard Mainsail Standing
> > RigDimensionsFor Rhodes 22
> >
> >
> > > This is just fantastic information, Roger.  In the upper boom position
> on
> > > Pathfinder, which is my normal sailing position except where reefing
is
> > > advised, the clearance is just an inch or two with the backstays
> > tightened.
> > > That is from memory.  I've got to take measurements this week to get
> > precise
> > > about it.  I would think that my boom is standard issue because it has
> > that
> > > furling feature wherein if I pull on the boom towards aft, I can
rotate
> > the
> > > boom and theoretically at least could roll the main sail around it for
> > > reefing.  I've never heard anyone on the list talk about doing this,
but
> I
> > > recall reading about this somewhere quite a few years ago.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't describe what happens as "getting caught between the
> > backstays".
> > > It is more that when tacking, the boom gets caught on either backstay.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that I am tightening the backstays too much and
> decreasing
> > > the distance between the mast and the stays?  This seems unlikely as
the
> > > mast doesnt' really have that much flex down low at that point.
> > >
> > > Again, many thanks.
> > >
> > > Saroj
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:38 PM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Critical Standard Mainsail Standing Rig
> > > DimensionsFor Rhodes 22
> > >
> > >
> > > Saroj, Keith, et al,
> > >
> > > I just went thru my files & looked up the dimensions & geometry of
> Dynamic
> > > Equilibrium's standing rigging and mainsail before I modified  the
> > masthead
> > > casting.  First of all, here are the dimensions of a standard Rhodes
22
> > > mainsail:
> > >
> > > Max Luff: 21 feet - 8 inches
> > > Max Foot: 9 feet - 0 inches
> > > Mainsail Area: 110 square feet
> > > Boom Length From Aft Mast Face To End Of Boom: 9 feet - 8 inches
> > >
> > > Nominal Backstay Angle Relative To Horizontal When Backstays Are Taut
&
> > Mast
> > > Bend = 0.00 Chord Inches: 65.68 deg
> > >
> > > Horizontal Distance Along Top Of Boom From Aft Mast Face To Backstay:
> > > With Boom In Upper Position: 10 feet - 1-1/2 inches
> > > With Boom In Lower Position: 10 feet - 9-1/2 inches
> > >
> > > NOTE 1: In the lower boom position, the boom clears the backstays by
> > 13-1/2
> > > inches when the boom is horizontal, angle = 0 deg
> > > When I do the algebra & trig, the boom would have to rise to an angle
=
> > 67.3
> > > deg relative to horizontal to hit the backstays
> > > The aft end of the boom would have to rise up by 107 inches to hit the
> > > backstays
> > > This is a very extreme angle for the boom & highly unlikely
> > >
> > > NOTE 2: In the upper boom position, the boom clears the backstays by
> 5-1/2
> > > inches when the boom is horizontal, angle = 0 deg
> > > When I do the algebra & trig, the boom would have to rise to an angle
=
> > 53.9
> > > deg relative to horizontal to hit the backstays
> > > The aft end of the boom would have to rise up by 93-3/4 inches to hit
> the
> > > backstays
> > > This is a very extreme angle for the boom & highly unlikely
> > >
> > > Boy, from these calculations, I don't see how you managed to get the
> boom
> > > caught between the backstays unless your upper boom position is a lot
> > higher
> > > than mine or your boom is longer?
> > >
> > > Hopefully, these standard Rhodes 22 rig dimensions will help you
resolve
> > > your boom/backstay interference issues.
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > >
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