[Rhodes22-list] Trailer Measurements

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Mon Jul 26 14:55:06 EDT 2004


Pretty sure.  Not positive.  Michael will know. 

Stan is extremely generous with this information, and with help on all these matters even if he doesn't make a nickel from it.  Still, the polite thing is to ask for permission, and not just to work around him because you can.

Here is something I found from a 1999 posting to this list.  As you can see, I was on the same tack:

THIS NOTICE  is directed to those who did not purchase their boat from GBI and may therefore not have received the instruction booklet - or to those who did get the booklet but have not read it. 
Beware of delegated trailer hookers.  The fact that your assistant assures you that the coupling has been tightened as far as is possible, should mean nothing to you.  Your question has to be, " Is the movable coupler's lip on top of the hitch ball or underneath it?"   Getting the answer is simple.  Feel with a finger or lift the trailer (by hand or with the jack).  If the car raises with the trailer, you can roll.  If the trailer raises and leaves the car behind, you know why pilots take a walk around their plane before they take off. 

PS:  Rhodes instruction booklets are available at $1,000 per copy or, you have our permission to ignore Bill Effros and make a copy from a General Boats' buyer. 

gbi 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Art Shriver 
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Measurements


Bill

Are you certain that the trailer was originally designed by Stan?   What 
year did GBI produce their original model?

Art Shriver.  Teetotum, a '76

Bill Effros wrote:

>Herb,
>
>I'm an author who earns a living off my intellectual property.  I think it's wrong for people to buy what I've written, make a copy, and send the copy to their friends without paying me for my work.
>
>Stan spent a lot of time and money developing these trailers.  Anyone can look at them, say "that's a good idea" and copy the concept, and modify their own trailer, or have someone else build one--to their own specifications.
>
>But to ask people on the list to measure the trailers they have bought from Stan, and to send you the measurements, so you can build your own trailer, or teach someone else how to build these trailers, without paying Stan for his intellectual property, is wrong, in my view.
>
>I'm sure that is not what you were thinking when you asked the question, and I do not think badly of you for asking it.  This has come up many times before, and I only sometimes respond in this way.
>
>But I do think it's wrong, and I haven't said anything about it for a while.
>
>By the way,  there have been people who extended your idea of "send me the trailer measurements," to "why not copy and sell the whole boat"--let me borrow your boat, I'll make molds from it, we'll make our own exact copies of the boat, we'll sell them and split the profit--if we don't have to pay anything for R&D we can easily sell them for less than Stan can sell them for.
>
>Essentially that's what you're trying to do in the trailer department, in my view.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Herb Parsons 
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
>Cc: bill at parsonsys.net 
>Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:44 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Measurements
>
>
>I saw on here that someone had posted information about the trailer measurements for a Rhodes 22. I assume this was bunkboard settings and such. I thought I had saved the original email, but could not find it. If someone has that information, I would be grateful if you could pass it on to me. The Rhodes 22 we are trying to set up a trailer for is a 1983 model. Thanks in advance.
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