[Rhodes22-list] Attention Eric
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Wed Jul 28 12:36:50 EDT 2004
my reaction is (as if anyone cares so I am addressing this to myself):
What a great country.
It is almost as great as the Rhodes-list
love you all - even the republicans. (OK, as long as I am being generous,
make that a capital "R".)
stan/gbi
----- Original Message -----
From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Attention Eric
Eric:
There are some issues involved that you, the others and I are not
privy to. If you noticed, Stan was trying to calm Michael down.
I bought a Rhodes 22 recycle from Stan and continue to deal with
him. He is an O.K. guy.
On email list and this list in the past, people have exceeded what
should be said in public. Recently, Dick Cheney and Teresa Kerry said
things off the cuff and not necessary.
In the real world, people loose their cool. Some realize it and
some do not. I have had to deal with people who intentionally loose their
cool. I have dealt with people who need anger management therapy.
Do not let Michael's exchange influence or color your reasoning.
Shit happens. Evidentially, Michael thought he was left with someone else's
shit that in his opinion was not necessary. The other guy thought he was
doing it right.
If you already had a boat, a few hours with a good wind would make
you forget about this incident. That was one reason I got a sailboat to
begin with. I just wanted a way to get away from others insanity, greed,
and self centeredness.
Ed K
Sailing on Lake Hartwell, South Carolina side.
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:03 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon Green
Hey Eric,
Because you are new around here you might not realize that Michael (aka
MJM) runs this list out of the goodness of his heart (which I'll admit did
not come across in the message you are complaining about). I've met Michael
and he's a good guy just as Stan is a good guy and the Rhodes 22 is a good
boat.
As you mull over your options remember that this is an Internet email list
and the Rhodes 22 is a boat. Keep them separate in your mind and you'll do
fine. By the way, welcome to the list and good luck with your small boat
decision. If the Rhodes 22 is right for you, no other small boat will do.
Mary Lou
1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
At 08:47 AM 7/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
><FONT face="Default Sans Serif, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
>size=2><DIV>Mr. Meltzer,</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I have only recently
>joined this list, and so know nothing of its history, your history, nor
>Mr. Green's history.</DIV><DIV>I know only how your recent public messages
>to Mr. Green, and now a very nice fellow named Stan, have
>effected me. </DIV><DIV>Your messages have made me sad, and a little
>sick. They make me wary of joining any kind of club that
>you belong to--in other words, they make me question whether I should
>go through with purchasing the Rhodes 22 that I have already put down
>a deposit on. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I hope your ugly
>rants are an abberation. However, even a few messages like these
>would have been enough to turn me away from the Rhodes while I
>was still choosing among the several small boats out there using this
>list for part of my research--something that Stan recommended I do.
>It seems like he won't be able to do that so easily in the future.
></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Like I said, I am new to this list. It
>seems like it might be a wonderful resource for people like me who want to
>learn from the experience of long time owners. But if I
>find more threads like this one, I will stop researching the
>archives and try to go it alone. I hope that it is possible
>to scrub this thread out of the archives of this list. I
>hope it is the only one like it. I hope that I will never again find
>so uncivil a message in my in box. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Eric
>Newburger</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><FONT
>color=#990099>-----rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org wrote:
>-----<BR><BR></FONT>To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>, "The Rhodes 22
>mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>From: "Michael Meltzer"
><mjm at michaelmeltzer.com><BR>Sent by:
>rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<BR>Date: 07/28/2004 12:26AM<BR>Subject:
>Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon Green<BR><BR>You know something Stan, I am
>sitting here wondering, offended and deeply questioning should have I
>cared. BTW dad was a great guy,<BR>leave him out of this horse shit,
>including how ever you want to spin it.<BR><BR>MJM<BR><BR>----- Original
>Message ----- <BR>From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com><BR>To: "The
>Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday,
>July 27, 2004 1:34 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
>Green<BR><BR><BR>> Michael,<BR>><BR>> That Roger guy from the UK
>that you crucified was going to buy 3 Rhodes -<BR>> thanks Now he
>doesn't even want the free literature.<BR>><BR>> Nevertheless, I
>love you and agree with Bill that you should continue being<BR>>
>yourself and let it all out - much healthier.<BR>><BR>> Sheldon
>Green is really a lovely guy but he had a different father than
>you<BR>> so was brought up seeing things in a different light. I
>always enjoyed<BR>> listening to your father on the radio but I am sure
>that your father and<BR>> Green's father would not have seen things
>from the same perspective, either.<BR>><BR>> So make up with your
>new fellow Rhodie and we will forgive you for voting<BR>> for Bush.
>(Well maybe we won't go that far.)<BR>><BR>>
>stan/gbi<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Bill
>Effros" <bill at effros.com><BR>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004
>11:40 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
>Green<BR>><BR>><BR>> Michael, no need to hold back, let out your
>true feelings, you'll feel<BR>> better.<BR>><BR>>
>Bill<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
>Michael Meltzer<BR>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<BR>> Sent:
>Monday, July 26, 2004 11:14 PM<BR>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
>Green<BR>><BR>><BR>> Sheldon Green may a curse be upon you, wife
>and family. Bad healthy, poor<BR>> income, pain and disperse. May all
>your luck be bad. May your days be short<BR>> and bitter. May the sea
>take your rotten soul soon. I am sorry you every<BR>> because a Rhodes
>owner. You have no honor. You did nothing but take and even<BR>> after
>that you took some more. Asshole, I just paid off your shortfall<BR>>
>asshole. Your were killing them.Your lucky the boys told me after the
>fact<BR>> because I would have killed that deal. I hope you kill your
>self on the<BR>> fucking boat. Better yet a love one, You are such a
>piece of work. Yes<BR>> people I am pissed. Stans to nice and trusting
>and would never say anything.<BR>> I am not under such a restriction.
>Get wishbone by a drunk. Hope you fuckup<BR>> the boat again, those
>custom parts can be a real bitch. Half of me hoping<BR>> the dam boat
>burn to the water line, but than you might get insurance, hope<BR>> it
>just death of 100 of uninsurable bills. An big yard bills. Ask
>some<BR>> advice I have a few great answers ready. Like were to stick
>the mast.<BR>><BR>> MJM<BR>>
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