[Rhodes22-list] Attention Eric
Rik Sandberg
sanderico at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 29 00:32:54 EDT 2004
Well......DUH ! ! ! !
Good Grief....no wonder you're PO'd. Damn....you'd think it was rocket science
or something.
Rik
On Wed, Jul 28 2004 10:47 pm, Michael Meltzer wrote:
> the word shit is closer to the truth then you will ever know. That and some
> personable reasonability. Let me tell you a quick story some one buys a
> boat, The boat has a vacuum flush head. Head is working. Test by staff and
> a surveyor. All is well. The person gets the boat. But does not relize that
> all thier "testing" might have filled the holding tank. I thought in it
> works petty much like a home tolit so I betting never read the website,
> manual or asked any question. Keeps using it and using it. Backs it up
> bigtime, cloged vent line. Also I am not sure but I thing the gut wondered
> what the "cute little button did", like turn on the tank discharge againts
> a closed sea cock. Big fuckup. Now the fun begins, he calls in a
> "repairer". The guy see him coming and is "charging" 1300$ to fix(the
> whole system was chear that that), "taken by the yard". than thier is a
> story to "cleanup" the mess more cash. charges stan and withhold money, for
> his fuckup. Thats after 3 other of his screewup he got for free(figure a
> 5000 value), just to much.
>
> MJM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:39 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Attention Eric
>
>
> Eric:
>
> There are some issues involved that you, the others and I are not
> privy to. If you noticed, Stan was trying to calm Michael down.
>
> I bought a Rhodes 22 recycle from Stan and continue to deal with
> him. He is an O.K. guy.
>
> On email list and this list in the past, people have exceeded what
> should be said in public. Recently, Dick Cheney and Teresa Kerry said
> things off the cuff and not necessary.
>
> In the real world, people loose their cool. Some realize it and
> some do not. I have had to deal with people who intentionally loose their
> cool. I have dealt with people who need anger management therapy.
>
> Do not let Michael's exchange influence or color your reasoning.
> Shit happens. Evidentially, Michael thought he was left with someone
> else's shit that in his opinion was not necessary. The other guy thought
> he was doing it right.
>
> If you already had a boat, a few hours with a good wind would make
> you forget about this incident. That was one reason I got a sailboat to
> begin with. I just wanted a way to get away from others insanity, greed,
> and self centeredness.
>
> Ed K
> Sailing on Lake Hartwell, South Carolina side.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon Green
>
> Hey Eric,
>
> Because you are new around here you might not realize that Michael (aka
> MJM) runs this list out of the goodness of his heart (which I'll admit did
> not come across in the message you are complaining about). I've met Michael
> and he's a good guy just as Stan is a good guy and the Rhodes 22 is a good
> boat.
>
> As you mull over your options remember that this is an Internet email list
> and the Rhodes 22 is a boat. Keep them separate in your mind and you'll do
> fine. By the way, welcome to the list and good luck with your small boat
> decision. If the Rhodes 22 is right for you, no other small boat will do.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
> At 08:47 AM 7/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> ><FONT face="Default Sans Serif, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
> >size=2><DIV>Mr. Meltzer,</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I have only recently
> >joined this list, and so know nothing of its history, your history, nor
> >Mr. Green's history.</DIV><DIV>I know only how your recent public messages
> >to Mr. Green, and now a very nice fellow named Stan, have
> >effected me. </DIV><DIV>Your messages have made me sad, and a little
> >sick. They make me wary of joining any kind of club that
> >you belong to--in other words, they make me question whether I should
> >go through with purchasing the Rhodes 22 that I have already put down
> >a deposit on. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I hope your ugly
> >rants are an abberation. However, even a few messages like these
> >would have been enough to turn me away from the Rhodes while I
> >was still choosing among the several small boats out there using this
> >list for part of my research--something that Stan recommended I do.
> >It seems like he won't be able to do that so easily in the future.
> ></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Like I said, I am new to this list. It
> >seems like it might be a wonderful resource for people like me who want to
> >learn from the experience of long time owners. But if I
> >find more threads like this one, I will stop researching the
> >archives and try to go it alone. I hope that it is possible
> >to scrub this thread out of the archives of this list. I
> >hope it is the only one like it. I hope that I will never again find
> >so uncivil a message in my in box. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Eric
> >Newburger</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><FONT
> >color=#990099>-----rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org wrote:
> >-----<BR><BR></FONT>To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>, "The Rhodes 22
> >mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>From: "Michael Meltzer"
> ><mjm at michaelmeltzer.com><BR>Sent by:
> >rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org<BR>Date: 07/28/2004 12:26AM<BR>Subject:
> >Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon Green<BR><BR>You know something Stan, I am
> >sitting here wondering, offended and deeply questioning should have I
> >cared. BTW dad was a great guy,<BR>leave him out of this horse shit,
> >including how ever you want to spin it.<BR><BR>MJM<BR><BR>----- Original
> >Message ----- <BR>From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com><BR>To: "The
> >Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday,
> >July 27, 2004 1:34 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
> >Green<BR><BR><BR>> Michael,<BR>><BR>> That Roger guy from the UK
> >that you crucified was going to buy 3 Rhodes -<BR>> thanks Now he
> >doesn't even want the free literature.<BR>><BR>> Nevertheless, I
> >love you and agree with Bill that you should continue being<BR>>
> >yourself and let it all out - much healthier.<BR>><BR>> Sheldon
> >Green is really a lovely guy but he had a different father than
> >you<BR>> so was brought up seeing things in a different light. I
> >always enjoyed<BR>> listening to your father on the radio but I am sure
> >that your father and<BR>> Green's father would not have seen things
> >from the same perspective, either.<BR>><BR>> So make up with your
> >new fellow Rhodie and we will forgive you for voting<BR>> for Bush.
> >(Well maybe we won't go that far.)<BR>><BR>>
> >stan/gbi<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Bill
> >Effros" <bill at effros.com><BR>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org><BR>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004
> >11:40 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
> >Green<BR>><BR>><BR>> Michael, no need to hold back, let out your
> >true feelings, you'll feel<BR>> better.<BR>><BR>>
> >Bill<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
> >Michael Meltzer<BR>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<BR>> Sent:
> >Monday, July 26, 2004 11:14 PM<BR>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sheldon
> >Green<BR>><BR>><BR>> Sheldon Green may a curse be upon you, wife
> >and family. Bad healthy, poor<BR>> income, pain and disperse. May all
> >your luck be bad. May your days be short<BR>> and bitter. May the sea
> >take your rotten soul soon. I am sorry you every<BR>> because a Rhodes
> >owner. You have no honor. You did nothing but take and even<BR>> after
> >that you took some more. Asshole, I just paid off your shortfall<BR>>
> >asshole. Your were killing them.Your lucky the boys told me after the
> >fact<BR>> because I would have killed that deal. I hope you kill your
> >self on the<BR>> fucking boat. Better yet a love one, You are such a
> >piece of work. Yes<BR>> people I am pissed. Stans to nice and trusting
> >and would never say anything.<BR>> I am not under such a restriction.
> >Get wishbone by a drunk. Hope you fuckup<BR>> the boat again, those
> >custom parts can be a real bitch. Half of me hoping<BR>> the dam boat
> >burn to the water line, but than you might get insurance, hope<BR>> it
> >just death of 100 of uninsurable bills. An big yard bills. Ask
> >some<BR>> advice I have a few great answers ready. Like were to stick
> >the mast.<BR>><BR>> MJM<BR>>
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