[Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff

Wed Jun 23 18:17:06 EDT 2004

I'm pretty certain the plastic decking & fence material sold at Lowes & Home
Depot is polyvinyl chloride (PVC).

Table 23-21 on pp. 23-52 of the 6th edition of Perry's Chemical Engineer's
Handbook lists the chemical resistance of type 1 PVC (unplasticized) to both
gasoline & ethanol as excellent.  Other common engineering thermoplastics
with good chemical resistance to both gasoline & ethanol are: acrylonitrile
butadiene styrene polymer (ABS), polyvinylidene chloride (SARAN),
polyester/glass fiber composite (fiberglass), epoxy/glass fiber composite,
flourocarbons (TEFLON), chlorinated polyether (Penton), and polycarbonate.
Any of these materials except the flourocarbons could be reliably adhesive
bonded.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eaton, Gil" <GEaton at IKON.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff

> What about the recycled plastic decking that Home Depot/Lowes carry
> as an expensive alternative to treated wood backyard decks?
> gil
>
> Gil Eaton
> S/V Dream Catcher
> Spring Cove Marina
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:49 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
>
>
> by "plactic wood" i was thinging about the stuff I seen being sold in
> "lowes" for home desk, I am not sure what they are made of,
> the problem I trying to solve is to put in "sleepers", like wood
stripping,
> to act as attachment points for the other stuff.
> Building up glass is a pain and wood rots, any subjections.
>
> MJM
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
>
>
> > Michael,
> >
> > There is no adhesive I am aware of that I would trust to bond a
> polyethylene
> > or polypropylene fuel tank or heavily loaded shelf to the hull of a
> > fiberglass boat.  Adhesives just don't bond very strongly to these
> polymers.
> > You could polyurethane foam the tanks in place.  Or, you could
fiberglass
> > wrap the tanks in place.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
> >
> >
> > > I read all the fuel info, kinda of a combined answer.
> > >
> > > Seems to me the best answer might be have two tanks(I wanted that
> anyhow),
> > with each tank having it own filter, install a value that
> > > will switch the draw and return between the tanks. That way both bad
> fuel
> > and filter are covered and keeps the system a little bit
> > > simpler. Sounds like I back to putting a cockatl into the tanks, to
get
> > the tanks in I need to attach to the hull. does anyone know
> > > if the "plactic wood" can be bent, tacked screewed and expoxyed to the
> > hull? about 1/2 inch thick to make real attachment points. I
> > > also want to put in some self and storage the same way.
> > >
> > > MJM
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:58 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
> > >
> > >
> > > > Michael,
> > > >
> > > > Just thought of something else - if you don't have room for a second
> > filter,
> > > > you can add an automotive-type inline diesel-compatible fuel pump
> > between
> > > > the tank and the filter - we have this setup on our Tayana. Then, as
> the
> > > > filter begins to clog and you start to lose power, you turn on the
> > auxiliary
> > > > pump. It's additional pressure is enough to push the fuel through
the
> > > > filter, helping the primary fuel pump, and allowing enough time to
> > select a
> > > > good place to change the filter. The aux. pump can also be used to
> bleed
> > the
> > > > system after you change the filter or when you need to get air out
of
> > the
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael
> Meltzer
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 9:59 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Diesel has two hoses, a draw and return, some tanks can be converted
> but
> > not
> > > > else ones, beside I want around 30 gallons (24 hours at
> > > > full power and around 48 at nominal) plus about 6 gallions reserve.
> > short
> > > > term I go with jerrycans(it diesel) but longer term I put
> > > > a larger tank below desk, maybe a primary/ready tank.
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> > > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:56 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Stuff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael:
> > > >
> > > > I did not know that you cannot use a gas tank to diesel.
> > > >
> > > > Ed K
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Meltzer
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:54 PM
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Name
> > > >
> > > > OK, the winner is in, AMLANI, I think it won because the girl liked
> the
> > idea
> > > > it was named them, a quick google search say it is a Hawaiian last
> name.
> > OK
> > > > it works for me. now for the reward, I just got done cleanup up some
> of
> > my
> > > > boat "stuff", found a navioc 20 tiller pilot (no install hardware
but
> > > > working), compass for a caompainway door, cleat to change from
"stan"
> > old
> > > > downhaul system, a car for the main sail outhaul, dozen of cleats
and
> > plasic
> > > > blocks foe underseat tie down and order misc stuff. 4 gas
tanks(might
> > not be
> > > > shipable), Would you like Any/All of it MarryLou?
> > > >
> > > > MJM
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