qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Wed Jun 30 00:47:03 EDT 2004


it nothing you did, by the way, most desial is 40 centen, more stores that service trucker sell "bosters" that will raise it 5
points and the stuff is also good for the motor.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen & Dorene Barrera" <dbarrera at comcast.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.


> Mary Lou,
>
> Dorene and I have always felt comfortable with this list. We have met
> several R22 owners over the years and feel we know others just from being on
> this list. I guess it is a matter of trust.
>
> For whatever reason, some of us have decided to move to a bigger boat. It
> was not because we didn't like the R22. Had Stan a larger boat in
> production, we would have been the first to put an order in. We opted for
> "Seaward Distributers, Inc. A General Boats Company" because it still
> involved the people we have grown to respect. We still feel the R22 is the
> best boat available for it's size and we will miss her... but it was time to
> move up.
>
> Yes, there has been a lot of chatter on the list re: the 26, three of us
> picked up a new boat within a three week time period...I also feel
> disappointed with some of the initial posts.
>
> However, I would like to thank you, and the others, for your tolerance and
> support.
>
> Glen and Dorene
>
> PS.  Nice change of pace:)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at verizon.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:37 AM
> Subject: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
>
>
> > I'm with Mark on this. I'd hate to have to subscribe to 5 or 6 different
> > lists to find out what my buds, the former Rhodies are up to. The Seaward
> > RK 26 appears to be a logical move up from an R22, though it appears that
> > 36 & 37 footers are currently popular.
> >
> > So here's a question for all the Rhodies out there, if you were to move up
> > (over or down) - what would your next boat be and why? One of the main
> > reasons we've stayed small is the ease of maintenance. We like having a
> > boat on the Chesapeake that we can haul home for the winter. We've talked
> > about retiring down near the Bay and that has brought consideration of a
> > bigger boat. Right now I've been looking at Tartan 28s. Supposedly good
> > sailing, Sparkman & Stevens design, nice deck layout (with the exception
> of
> > the bridgedeck traveller which would take some getting used to), good
> > cockpit, good engine access, good interior layout and some are even
> > available tiller-steered. Seems like a nice boat for a couple who still
> > would want to do a lot of daysailing but might want to take off on longer
> > trips.
> >
> > Anyone else want to take a stab at this?
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> > Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> >
> >
> > At 07:42 AM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Michael,
> > >
> > >Bob and Nancy Quinn are the ones w/ the Tartan 37 - Julie and I have a
> > >Tayana 37.
> > >
> > >And my two cents worth on this topic - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
> If
> > >we can allow the political rants we've seen, surely we can allow boats
> other
> > >than the R22 to be discussed, as well.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> > >Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:46 AM
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > >
> > >
> > >I can agree with this :-), mjm does not like to work more than the next
> man.
> > >I have to admit I do find the topic a little strange, I
> > >figured this might have been a problem and asked a few months ago, it
> seemed
> > >that most were ok with it, now that it is a fact, some
> > >of the same people have a problem. OK, I am sitting druming my fingures
> on
> > >what to do, like I have a question about the macys fire
> > >works/hellgate/anchorage ,an other about puting on names and have I a
> answer
> > >about "centen". Should I even bother asking or
> > >answering?  Next problem if people did not want me here who should I hand
> > >the list over to, Mark a 37 tartan, Will is a seaward 26
> > >and so and I, they will be subject the same "problem".  Now sailnet or
> yahoo
> > >groups would work but they have thier warts. Resomable
> > >people made a resonable statement/request, My problem is I am human too
> and
> > >feel a little rejected, just do not have the hart to
> > >deal with the list tonight.
> > >
> > >MJM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:57 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree, heck this list doesn't have much traffic as it is. Why make
> MJM
> > > > have to work any harder supporting two lists. Maybe Rummy was going to
> run
> > > > the new server. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > PS Ric - I went sailing Saturday and Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:57:14 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >As a regular reader and occasional contributor, I too gave some
> thought
> > >to
> > > > >space taken up by the Seaward dialog, and also came to some
> conclusions.
> > > > >
> > > > >I happen to agree that it is the people that makes this list what it
> is.
> > > > >The discussion of a 'foreign' boat isn't much different than the
> > >political
> > > > >and sports discussions that get going on the list.  It all makes up
> the
> > > > >character of this list, and often provides excellent food for
> thought.
> > >The
> > > > >biggest improvement to the management of the list has been the
> discipline
> > > > >I've seen everyone use in keeping the subject line on topic.
> > > > >
> > > > >Although I'd move up to the (Still Only A Dream) Rhodes 26, this
> > >afternoon
> > > > >if I could, I like hearing the experiences people are having with
> other
> > > > >boats, Flicka, Seaward, classic runabouts, Rhodes 19 etc.  These are
> > >people
> > > > >I've come to know and their comments, positive and negative, go a
> long
> > >way
> > > > >in influencing my choices and opinions.
> > > > >
> > > > >I also think that a lot of the chatter about the Seaward will settle
> down
> > > > >after the boats are delivered and get sorted out.  These people still
> > >have
> > > > >a
> > > > >lot of good Rhodes experience to share with the group. I'd hate to
> have
> > > > >them
> > > > >feel unwelcome, because they are sailing something else, at the
> moment.
> > > > >
> > > > >There is something to be said about the GBI umbrella too.
> > > > >
> > > > >Dan Bodnar
> > > > >SV; QOL, '92 Rhodes 22
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:02 PM
> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rummy and all,
> > > > >
> > > > >Yeah, you are right about the traffic on the Seaward. BUT, I was
> thinking
> > > > >about this too. True this list is named the R22 list, but when we
> really
> > > > >think about it, isn't it really more like the "I bought a boat from
> Stan
> > > > >and/or Elton list"?? In my estimation we (at least I) are here more
> > >because
> > > > >our friends, or people we know are here, than because of which brand
> of
> > > > >boat we have. I know there are other Seaward forums already and I'm
> sure
> > > > >most who are migrating to the 26 probably are already communicating
> on
> > > > >those as well. I also belong to the Flicka 20 list, but I still come
> here
> > > > >because I like you Rummy, as well as a lot of other folks on the
> list.
> > > > >Also, this list tends to be a little less full of the topic police
> than
> > > > >most and is more fun to be around because the topic tends to vary
> from
> > >day
> > > > >to day.
> > > > >
> > > > >I can't say if this diversity is a good thing or a bad thing for the
> > >list.
> > > > >I suppose opinion on this will vary from one person to the next. For
> me
> > > > >(yes I know I'm now an outsider) coming here is more about staying in
> > >touch
> > > > >with my friends than talking about a specific boat.
> > > > >
> > > > >Just my 2 cents worth, probably wasn't worth that much though. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey, somebody sail a little bit for me. Let me know where we went.
> I'm
> > > > >working again this weekend.....as usual.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >At 09:07 AM 6/26/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >I have waited several weeks before writing this post, so a little
> bit
> > >of
> > > > > >thought has gone into writing this.
> > > > > >I have noticed that the amount of mail concerning the new RK26 is
> > > > > >overwhelming the list. Not that this is a bad thing, it's just that
> I
> > > > > >don't have  any
> > > > > >interest in it.
> > > > > >I would like to throw up for discussion the possibility of another
> list
> > > > >for
> > > > > >the RK26 owners. It is not a Rhodes design hull and I think they
> need a
> > > > >new
> > > > > >home.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Rummy
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