[Rhodes22-list] Style vs. Substance-correction

[Todd Tavares]

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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Bill Effros"
   Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:06:28 -0400
   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Style vs. Substance
   > Brad,
   >
   > As I remember it, both Stan and I argued against the war in the Fall
   of 2002. I thought we had plenty of passion, although one can always
   criticize style. I'm pretty sure a number of other people also argued
   against it at that time. What was your position?
   >
   > Are you saying the current mess is our fault because we didn't fight
   the current policy hard enough?
   >
   > Confused in Greenwich,
   > Bill Effros
   >
   > PS -- The Republicans have spent $100 million telling us how
   ineffective Kerry has been in the Senate for the past 20 years. Now,
   suddenly, he is able to take on the "master of low expectatio ns"
   owing to the skills he has honed in the "debate society"?
   >
   > I think this election is going to be won on substance, not style,
   and I think that is very good for this country no matter who wins. At
   the end of the day I think we will all believe that the policies of
   our leaders reflect the policy choices of the electorate.
   >
   > I must confess some more confusion about the position you seem to be
   taking which is that you are going to vote for Bush even though you
   don't think his policy reflects your position. Are you trying to win
   some drinking bet at the expense of what you know to be the best
   interests of your country?
   >
   > B.
   >
   >
   >
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   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: brad haslett
   > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
   > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 12:14 PM
   > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - chiaroscuro
   >
   >
   > Dear G,
   >
   > Please give me a link to your Fouad Ajami reference if
   > you have it. I have read his article in the Jan/Feb
   > 2003 Foreign Affairs magazine and a few others but
   > nothing recent.
   >
   > We agree on this, the ultimate fate of Iraq belongs to
   > the Iraq's. Regardless of how one feels about the
   > justifications for the current occupation of Iraq, we
   > are there and to pull out now or announce a date
   > specific pull out would only encourage the insurgents
   > to wait us out, just as in Vietnam. There is no
   > shortage of current literature critical of the
   > occupation includin g a lengthy article by James
   > Fallows in this months Atlantic Monthly. In fact, if
   > you read the transcript of Kerry's Iraq positions
   > during the debate, you will notice Kerry neatly
   > mirrows Fallows, which more than one blogger in
   > cyberspace has noticed as well.
   >
   > So, our choice is between one leader who doggedly
   > remains on course, versus another who follows the
   > latest read of yesterdays "game tape" I personally
   > would feel more confident of a critic if he had made
   > an impassioned plea against the war in advance.
   >
   > Kerry won the debate on style, expected when you
   > consider his 20 years of practice in the debate
   > society we call the Senate. For those opposed to our
   > current engagement it is indeed unfortunate that this
   > style and passion was missing in the Fall of 2002.
   >
   > We ARE all wearing the blue dress now, though I pre fer
   > that it be a red one on November 2.
   >
   > Brad Haslett
   > "CoraShen"
   > --- Grayson/Ena Lynn wrote:
   >
   > > Phyllis wrote:
   > >
   > > > I respect a person who can think through, analyze
   > > a situation, and when
   > > > presented with corrective information, i.e. the
   > > intelligence was wrong...
   > > then
   > > > formulates a new position and advocate it.
   > >
   > > > That is leadership to me, not someone who is so
   > > dogmatic, one-sighted and
   > > > unwilling to do anything differently than follow
   > > the misguided pals around
   > > > him...
   > >
   > > Spot on!
   > >
   > > Add to that Fouad Ajami's observation that Bush
   > > cannot win the war, Kerry
   > > cannot win the war, UBL cannot win the war, America
   > & gt; cannot win the war.
   > > Only Iraqis can win the war.
   > >
   > > Case closed.
   > >
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   > >
   > >
   > http://pt.withy.org/ptalk/archives/thought_for_the_day/
   > >
   > > Like the bumper sticker said, we're all wearing the
   > > blue dress now.
   > >
   > >
   > >
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