[Rhodes22-list] Slim's issues

[Rik Sandberg]

Slim,

The biggest trouble with our schools is, we let the gov't dole out the 
money. This ensures that at least half of it will be wasted before it 
gets anywhere near it's destination.

I'm with Bob here. If you and I own identical houses on identical lots, 
right next to each other, we will probably pay about the same Property 
tax. If I chose to send my child to a private school this will not 
lessen my property tax burden in the least, but I will have the 
additional cost of the private school tuition to pay. Therefore, if my 
kid needs to go to a public school to attend a class or two, I am paying 
quite handsomely for that service compared to the student who attends 
the public school full time. If the administration cannot figure out how 
to deal with this, it is their problem, not mine, or yours. I have paid 
the bill, I should be able to use the service.

Also, if those teachers that are being abused so badly don't like it, 
they should go look for a job elsewhere. When the private schools can't 
find enough teachers, then they will be forced to offer better pay, 
benies, etc. to attract good teachers. This is called supply and demand 
and is how it is done in our country. Seriously Slim, let's say your 
band was looking for a bass player and you had 2 applicants of about 
equal skill show up. You like them both and the only difference between 
the 2 is one thinks he should be paid $250 dollars a night and the other 
thinks he should get $500. Who ya gonna pick, eh??

Rik

Steve Alm wrote:

>Sorry, Bob, I'm not letting you off that easy.  You said, "Every private
>school student pays the public school tuition."  Not quite.  Every homeowner
>pays taxes that go to the school system, but the money is distributed to the
>schools on a per-head basis.  So when these extra students show up for
>science or phy ed (the two biggies) the already overloaded and underfunded
>school has to take them.  The public schools are forced to do all the heavy
>lifting, while private schools can kick bad students out, ignore national
>standards, provide no accountability and run roughshod over their teachers
>and staff.  
>
>Slim
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>On 10/5/04 5:03 PM, "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>My LAST Comment and I am back to blissful ignorance.
>>
>>Slim wrote: They truck their
>>kids off to the public school building for science.  And the public school
>>has to take them and pay for them even though they get no money for that.
>>
>>Slim - Every private school student pays the public school tuition.  Public
>>schools would be in a world of hurt if the private school students were not
>>paying 2 tuitions and only using one.
>>
>>Public funds is not FREE funds - they are your funds with a large percentage
>>lost in the process.
>>It is elementary but I honestly think people forget or just don't realize.
>>
>>Ok Im done, who wants to talk sailing, beaches, jokes
>>
>>Bob
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>>>From: Jim White <jdwhite at utpa.edu>
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Slim's issues
>>>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:14:26 -0500
>>>
>>>At 03:52 PM 10/05/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>Slim wrote:
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>>>
>>>>It's pretty hard to comment on the schools in SC, IL or Texas when all my
>>>>experience has been in MN, but I'll take a crack at it.  First, Texas.
>>>>All
>>>>I know about Texas schools is what I read from Texan, Molly Ivins who
>>>>blames
>>>>Gov. GWB for all that mediocrity that Jim refers to.  He dumbed down the
>>>>tests in order to raise the percentage of passing scores, making Texas
>>>>look
>>>>better against other states.  He has the same idiotic plan for the rest of
>>>>the country.
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>>>>
>>>Actually, and strictly historically speaking, the tests in Texas (and
>>>teacher competency assessment as well) were first initiated by Ross Perot
>>>as the TAAS test (Texas Assessment of Academic Skills) back in the 1990's,
>>>it was a pretty watered down test, and many teachers were up in arms about
>>>having to prove their own competency. Under GWB that test evolved into the
>>>TAKS (Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills) test, a much more difficult
>>>test. This test was conceived under Bushs' governorship, but implemented
>>>under our current (and much less effective) governor: Rick Perry.
>>>
>>>Just for the record.
>>>jw
>>>
>>>
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