[Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics - Where do we draw the line?

Chris Geankoplis napoli68 at charter.net
Wed Oct 20 10:58:18 EDT 2004


Hey Brad,
 what do you mean that Medford is worse than Portland?  You know nothing of
Medford!  Jackson county and Medford have always gone Republican for the
last 20 years!  Where as Portland goes Democratic.  (hey I guess you are
right, it is worse).  I am not addressing the incident in Portland I am
talking about the attitude of the Republicans at the rally and how they
percieve the concept of "protect our civil rights" nothing  more.  Please
explalin how "protect out civil rights" is obsene.  Focus on answering that
one question if you please.

Chris G
-----Original Message-----
From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics - Where do we draw the line?


>The rest of the story:
>
>On August 22, 2002 President Bush 43 was attending a
>Republican fund raiser in Portland, OR and the
>Presidential motorcade was met by over 1500 radical
>left-wing protesters as it approached the Hilton
>Hotel.  The local police lost control of the crowd and
>the streets surrounding the Hilton.  One of the
>vehichles near the "package" was hit with a rock and
>several others were stopped by protesters.  The Secret
>Service was furious with the local police for their
>lack of security.  Later, Republican donors attempting
>to enter the Hilton were physically attacked by the
>protesters.  Ironically, the North American Gay
>Amateur Athletic Alliance (NAGAA) was holding a
>meeting at the hotel and several members of their
>members were attacked trying to enter as well.  Had
>these gays been attacked by a bunch of rabid
>right-wing radicals it would be front page news on the
>NY Times and every other newspaper in the country.  It
>barely recieved any coverage.
>
>Frankly, I'm a bit suprised that Bush went to Medford
>at all.   I love the city of Portland but it is known
>as "Little Beruit", Medford is even worse.  Were I on
>Bush's security detail I'd advise against going there
>at all.  You'll notice the school teachers did not
>sign their loyalty oaths, they in fact lied to get in
>a private affair.  That alone is reason enough for
>being escorted off the property at a private event.
>Ever try "crashing" a wedding party? This fact seems
>to have "escaped" the local press covering the event.
>This event may be a bad PR day for the local
>Republicans but is hardly a "Brownshirt" incident.
>1500 protesters attacking the Presidential motorcade,
>attacking innocent hotel guests, even the gay ones -
>now there's your "Brownshirts".
>
>BTW - Grayson, Rohm was killed at a resort on the
>Tegernsee.  I've been there.  Its a beautiful place
>now that we kicked the Nazi's out.
>
>Brad Haslett
>"CoraShen"
>
>Grayson/Ena Lynn <agl2001 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> (clip below)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
>> list"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Politics
>>
>>
>> > Stan,
>> >
>> > I've been keeping my head down but I've got to
>> relate an incident that
>> > occurred here in Medford a few days ago.  The
>> President visited and there
>> > was a large turnout at the fairgrounds.  Three of
>> my fellow teachers,
>> ladies
>> > all (in all ways) went to the speech with their
>> tickets and were admitted.
>> > (the loyalty oath had been signed by another
>> person and the tickets were
>> > given to these teachers) (I suspect Ashcroft is
>> instituting an
>> investigation
>> > as we speak).  Then the threat was detected by the
>> "security" provided by
>> > the republican party and the teachers were
>> threatened with arrest for
>> > wearing an (and I quote from first hand sources)
>> an obscene slogan on the
>> > t-shirts.  More security guards and secrete
>> service were called and the
>> > teachers were " emphatically" escorted out:  they
>> were told they would be
>> > arrested if they tried to enter the "private
>> affair"again.  The obscene
>> > slogan on their t-shirt?
>> >
>> > "Protect our Civil Rights"  and nothing more.
>>
>======================================================
>>
>> Sturmabteilung
>> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
>> This article focuses on the stormtroopers of Nazi
>> Germany. For other types
>> of stormtrooper, see Stormtrooper.
>>
>>
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>> ----
>>
>> The Sturmabteilung (SA, German for "Assault Unit"
>> and is usually translated
>> as stormtroops or stormtroopers) functioned as a
>> paramilitary organisation
>> of the NSDAP - the German Nazi party. It played a
>> key role in Adolf Hitler's
>> rise to power in the 1930s. SA men were often known
>> as brownshirts from the
>> colour of their uniform and to distinguish them from
>> the SS who were known
>> as blackshirts.
>>
>> History
>>
>> The term Sturmabteilung originally came from the
>> specialized assault troops
>> used by Germany in 1918 in World War I utilising
>> Hutier tactics. Instead of
>> a large mass assault, the Sturmabteilung were
>> organized into small teams of
>> a few soldiers each. First applied during the Battle
>> of Cambrai the wider
>> use in March 1918 allowed the Germans to push back
>> British and French lines
>> tens of kilometers.
>>
>> In Munich, in the fall of 1920, Hitler himself
>> created the Ordnertruppen; a
>> body of muscular Nazis, ex-soldiers, and beer hall
>> brawlers in order to
>> protect his speeches and disrupt his opponents. It
>> originally functioned as
>> a group of bodyguards to enforce order at Nazi
>> gatherings. It was shortly
>> changed to Sportabteilung, a cover name meaning
>> "Sports section" and came to
>> be known by the initials SA. In late 1921, the name
>> was changed to the
>> current name Sturmabteilung. Under their popular
>> leader, Ernst Röhm, the SA
>> grew in importance within the Nazi power structure,
>> eventually claiming
>> thousands of members. The SA carried out numerous
>> acts of violence against
>> socialist groups throughout the 1920s, typically in
>> minor street-fights
>> called zusammenstösse ('collisions'). The SS
>> eventually took over their
>> original role.
>>
>> After Hitler took power in 1933 the SA became
>> increasingly anxious for power
>> and saw themselves as the replacement for the German
>> army. This angered the
>> regular army (Reichswehr) who were already quite
>> annoyed at the Nazi party.
>> It also led to tension with other leaders within the
>> party, who saw Röhm's
>> increasingly powerful SA as a threat to their own
>> personal ambitions.
>>
>> In order to ally himself with conservative forces
>> within the German Army and
>> to strengthen his position within the Nazi Party,
>> Hitler ordered the
>> execution of the leadership of the SA which took
>> place on June 30-July 1,
>> 1934 on what is known as the Night of the Long
>> Knives. Victor Lutze became
>> the new leader of the SA, and the organization was
>> soon marginalized in the
>> Nazi power structure.
>>
>> SA Maxims
>> "Terror must be broken by terror" (1)
>> "All opposition must be stamped into the ground" (1)
>>
>> Modern usage
>> Today, the term "Brown Shirts" has been used to
>> disparage the extreme rank
>> and file of right wing and left wing organizations.
>> It can also mean an
>> individual of a political organization who is seen
>> as very narrow-minded and
>> excessively loyal.
>>
>> The term "Digital Brownshirts," coined by former
>> Vice-President Al Gore, is
>> used by him to disparage the right wing weblogs that
>> criticize a perceived
>> liberal agenda in the mainstream media.
>>
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