[Rhodes22-list] Ocean Sailing

[eric.charles.newburger at census.gov]

Hmmmm.......an ocean going boat by GB....hmmmm........
Seems like, just reading the emails so far, that you'd have to reduce the
cockpit size, add a bridge deck, change the bow to add more boyancy...we're
talking about a different boat.   So...perhaps this new thread shouldn't
be, "what to do to the Rhodes 22", but rather, should be, "What do we want
Stan to build into a new ocean going boat for us?"

What LOA?
What gear?
What features?
What manner of keel?

Like that.

Stan, you're up for starting a whole new line, right?

Eric





                                                                                                                                             
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> ...if he'd had a dime more he would have bought bigger...

For less than a dime more he could have bought a LOT bigger.  We started
out shopping for a Flicka and ended up sailing an R22.  No doubt, Flicka's
a lovely little boat, but there is nothing in its class on the water, new
or used, that costs more per ton of displacement.

On the other hand, there is still a flock of under-30-footers that can and
have done circumnavigations, even in the hands of teen-agers; Tania Aebi in
Varuna and Robin Lee Graham in Dove come to mind.

How about a new thread discussing the industrial strength mods required to
build a passage-making R22?  (The "new 22" ?)   Politics is getting old.

<G>



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From: <eric.charles.newburger at census.gov>
To: "Richard Smith" <sailnut at worldnet.att.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
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>
> About three years ago I met a fellow who single-handed from California to
> French Polynesia and back on a Flika (if I am remembering the name
> correctly).  I asked him a few questions and read his book.  He survived,
> and took pride in his accomplishment.   But he did not have a good time
out
> there.
>
> This was a 20 foot boat designed for blue water passages and built by
> Pacific Seacraft---thick hull, much heavier ballast than a Rhodes and
more
> stable, lots of storage spaces and a tiny cockpit--this boat was
basically
> a barrel with a sail attached.  It looked neat, and worked, and his wife
> flew out to meet him, and--during their island hopping--they had a grand
> time.  Overall, he loved the trip.
>
> However, he was quite clear on two points....
> 1.  He got the crap beaten out of him on the blue water crossings.  Even
in
> heavy boat for it's size, 20 feet just didn't provide a lot of protection
> from ocean wave action.  He was a middle aged guy and felt every bruise
for
> a good while, and if he'd had a dime more he would have bought bigger.
> 2.  Amidst the safety gear and repair gear and spare sails and the rest
of
> the stuff the boat had to have, he had a tough time storing enough food
and
> water for himself on the long passages.  Had his wife gone along for the
> blue water trips, they would have had to ration pretty tightly.  They
could
> have done it, but again, his message was that even a little bigger would
> have been more comfortable.
>
> I would like to conclude my lecture by leaving you with the following
> thought about proper boat size for blue water.....
> Good gracious, man!  Even the Pardeys have moved into a 30 footer!
>
> Thank you, and good morning,
>
> Eric Newburger
>
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