[Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube

[Rik Sandberg]

Roger,

Doug Gardener has a CDI on his R22. When he came down to KY Lake with it 
a couple years back, he came with the furler/sail tied to the mast, 
pretty much like the normal GBI setup, except it hung past the end of 
the mast about 2 feet. The only difference in how he had to do it was, 
he had a piece of lumber about 3 feet long (2x2, I think) that he had 
fit so it slid into the foot of the mast once it was down and laid on 
the bow pulpit. This piece of lumber stuck out of the foot of the mast 
about 2 feet. Doug tied the over hanging end of his CDI to this piece of 
lumber to stabilize it for transport. It seemed quite a simple and 
effective solution to the problem.

Rik

Roger Pihlaja wrote:

>Mark,
>
>OK, thank-you, now I understand!  I will have to look at doing something
>like this with my Harken Unit 0 roller furler.  If I could avoid having to
>connect & disconnect the forestay from the masthead when I trailer Dynamic
>Equilibrium, it would significantly speed up my rigging/unrigging process.
>
>So Bob, if you are still listening to all of this; go to the hardware store
>& buy a piece of aluminum tubing with the same OD as your furling tube.  Cut
>this tube to the additional length required on your forestay.  Take your
>present furling tube to a welding shop that specializes in MIG welding of
>aluminum & have them weld the additional tubing onto the end of your present
>furling tube.  Tell the welder that the joint is going to be subject to a
>combination of tension, compression, & torsional loading & that you need
>100% weld penetration.  Be sure to have them grind the weld joint smooth.
>This will provide the additional luff length you want for your oversize
>genoa.
>
>But now, if you don't disconnect the forestay from the masthead, the furling
>drum will stick out about 2 feet beyond the butt end of the mast when you
>trailer the boat.  The furling drum will be supported only by the furling
>tube as a cantilever load.  The furling tube wasn't designed to be loaded in
>that manner.  The furling tube isn't sufficiently strong to tolerate this
>sort of load for very long.  If you don't support the furling drum; then,
>you may bend your furling tube as you drive down the road due to aerodynamic
>loading & vibration.  I would expect the furling tube will crack & fail in a
>short cycle fatigue mode if you don't support the furling drum.  So, for
>trailering, go back to the hardware store & buy yourself a piece of PVC pipe
>or a piece of wood that fits tightly into the butt end of your mast.  You
>will have to rig up a way to secure your furling drum to this PVC pipe or
>piece of wood when it is sticking out of the butt end of the mast -
>something as simple as a bungee cord would probably work just fine.
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:00 PM
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
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>>Roger,
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>>As an owner of the CDI furler, I think Rummy is saying that the CDI furler
>>foil is cut to be just short of the upper end of the forestay. When you
>>lower the mast, the furler sticks out a couple of feet beyond the base of
>>the mast. The solution for transporting it is to stick a piece of wood, a
>>piece of PVC, etc. up into the mast such that an amount approximately
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>equal
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>>to the "extra" length of the CDI furler to support the furling drum. The
>>excess foil / drum is then tied to the support.
>>
>>Mark Kaynor
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
>>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:50 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
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>>Rummy,
>>
>>I'm not following your explanation; but, it doesn't matter.  The real
>>question is; In your opinion, is this a viable solution for Bob?
>>
>>Roger
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa too long for my GBI furling tube
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>>>Roger,
>>>The new CDI furling drum that is coming from the factory is longer in
>>>the manner you described. They dealt with the extra length by using a
>>>piece of
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>>PVC
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>>>inserted into the mast and then tie the extra length to it. This way
>>>the entire  length can be supported for transit.
>>>
>>>Rummy
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