[Rhodes22-list] Fred's pointing dog question

[Wally Buck]

Ed/Fred

Are you guys talking true wind? It would be very hard to sail 35 degrees off 
true wind and maintain any kind of boat speed. In my opinion a Rhodes 22 set 
up to point is not the Rhodes 22 that most of us have. I think if one pays 
attention and has their boat rigged right you can do a little better than 
45%

The R22 like  most any sail boat will point better with a boom vang and 
standard main. I have IMF and my boat did not come with a vang. I got bored 
one day while sailing and made a cheapo vang out of a single line. One end 
is lashed to the base of the mast, a couple of inches up there is a bow line 
on a bite, then the line continues to boom and secured with a lash, than 
back down through the bow-line and secured with a truckers hitch and slip 
hitch. You pop the slip hitch and the truckers hitch provides single 
purchase. Even with IMF this was a big help. Provide proper tension on 
outhaul, use the vang and traveler as needed.

Most of us have jib furlers. I love my Harken furler because it requires a 
halyard. I can tension my head sail and when I race I try to get that thing 
tight!. Those with the GB furler and the 175 love the combo for ease of use 
but I would think this would not be a great set up for pointing. I think Ed 
said he had his Genny furled to about a 100 and sheeted out side the  outer 
shrouds. I have found that when heading upwind with head sail less 125jib 
sheets should run inside the outer shrouds. With a furled 175 this may not 
work. It seemed to be true with both a 125 and 150. I also think a second 
set of tracks is a must. I really wish I had them. I use cheapy home made 
barber haulers to help improve sheeting angles but they are a pain.

Oh yeah, I have old style CB, I don't know how it differs in performance 
from the Diamond Board.

Wally





>From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fred's pointing dog question
>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:21:21 -0400
>
>Fred:
>	Thank you for still not answering my question while asking another.
>
>	Would it have been a question to which you do not know the answer?
>
>	Nevertheless, I will answer your question and that is I do not know
>the real answer to that question.  I just look at who has trouble pointing
>to the wind.  By asking the question, from those willing to respond, I get
>more information on which to make an opinion.  I also learn ways to better
>point to the wind.
>	I am not an experienced sailor.  I am a Saturday afternoon sailor
>who uses the wind to take him anywhere and nowhere in particular.
>	That being said, if the wind is fresh, I believe that if scientific
>instruments were used, when I set up for the wind, I can point less the 45
>degrees mentioned on this list recently.  In fact, when I try, I think that
>I can get closer to 35 degrees.
>	However, that is just a wild-eyed guess based on my Windex.  Last
>Saturday with the wind gusting to knock down power, I could not get that,
>but at that point the Genny was outside at about 100% and I was on final
>approach to the Marina.
>	And, if you read the post on this list you will learn how to push
>the envelope.
>	Now tell us, does your dog point?
>
>Ed K
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>SVGravityLeak at aol.com
>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:46 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fred's pointing
>
>Ed,
>
>I thought the diamond board was better because of the more forward weight
>distribution.
>
>Fred
>
>In a message dated 9/21/04 5:53:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>ekroposki at charter.net writes:
>
> >
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list]Fred's Hunter IMF
> >
> > Fred:
> >
> > Is it a secret?  Because I think that R22's with a centerboard like mine
> > point better than those with a diamond board.  But so far this just a
>guess
> > or opinion.  Now answer the question, pretty please.
> >
> > Ed K
> >
>
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