[Rhodes22-list] Outer Banks Sea Trials
Wally Buck
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 28 09:47:14 EDT 2005
Bill,
The key is weather and a good watch. When coming in and out of the inlet
don't fight the tide. I have only come in and out of Oregon Inlet and the
time we left with slack tide worked out best.
Have a Plan B and Plan C. You will have a good time. Lots of small boats
make this trip.
Wally
>From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outer Banks Sea Trials
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:20:19 -0400
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>Alex,
>I appreciate your insights, but you are painting a pretty bleak picture for
>me. I thought that this area was supposed to be great for shoal draft
>boats like the Rhodes. Is really that bad? I have charts of the area and
>can see where the restricted areas are. I'll stay away from them as I
>certainly don't want to be used as a target. :) I've got the 9.9hp
>Yamaha. Are you saying that it will not provide enough power to overcome
>wind and waves? I would think that it must be pretty intense conditions
>for the 9.9hp to be overpowered.
>
>Bill W.
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>William,
>
>I would consider going on your trip on a much bigger boat, but not the
>Rhodes. The trip from Oriental to Beaufort will take you 4 hours or
>more. Going across the Neuse River across to the Inland waterway you'll
>find it to be 8 miles wide. When you get to Beaufort, be aware that this
>is a major seaport and large ocean going ships come into port here. They
>are not slow lumbering boats. They move out. When we brought Kizmet up
>from Charleston, SC, we went via the Atlantic and put in at Beaufort.
>What a shock. We had freighters passing us in the channel like we we
>standing still. Adding to the fun was the early morning fishing fleet
>that storms out the inlet in the channel going full throttle. The
>freighter passed us while we were going 7 knots under full power and it
>was going at least 15 knots, more likely 20. The fishing fleet can be
>anything from 28 to 60 footers with mucho power. Most professionals
>with outboards have dual 200+ hp and they're using em to get to the
>fishing grounds first. Meanwhile you're wallowing in the troughs and
>wake they're churning.
>
>Trying to come in from the Atlantic at Ocracoke Inlet is for the
>veteran, seasoned boater. I would not try it myself. This is a tricky
>inlet that has constant shoaling and rough waters. Experienced fishing
>trawlers (professional seamen) have lost their boats there on a regular
>basis. I would not try it in a Rhodes. You don't have the enough power
>to fight the current and waves if your timing is off.
>
>You would do well to stay in the Oriental area and sail Pamlico Sound.
>It's plenty large and has lots of places you can anchor and overnight.
>You need to get a charat for the area and heed the warning areas. The
>Marine Corps has a bombing area out there. Never know when it's going to
>be in use. It's a prohibited area and marked as such, but if you don't
>have a chart, you won't know what it's all about. The chart indicates
>depth that you might not worry about with the shallow draft but you can
>still get into some trouble. It's only a foot deep in some places where
>you;d think it was deep water. You will find that the waters in Core
>Sound, the water inside the Outer Banks from Cape Lookout to Ocracoke is
>very shallow.
>
>We've gone aground in the middle of the Neuse River near New Bern with
>the Rhodes. Luckily we pulled the cb up and were off, but what a shock
>to be in the middle of a 3 mile wide river and go aground. The good news
>is that you won't hit rocks, it's sand and muck. Be prepared for
>anchoring with a suitable anchor (danforth or delta) and have at least 6
>feet of chain on your rode. I've seen the commentary about not using
>chain, but experienced boaters will choose the cautious side and be so
>equipped. I once had trouble anchoring in 7 feet of water with Kizmet
>when in a creek with the wind blowing. I was using a 35# CQR anchor with
>ALL chain rode. It took 150 feet of chain to finally get the anchor to
>set, then we reduced scope to about 80 feet. I don't know what would
>have occured if we did not have the chain. We've switched our primary
>anchor to a 33# Bruce with 20 feet of chain and 150 feet of nylon. It
>works better.
>
>We had a Nor'easter two weeks ago that lasted 3 or 4 days. That kind of
>weather action forces the water across Pamlico sound and up the Neuse
>River. We had water over the docks for a day and the water level was up
>for the extent of the strom. When that occurs, you will not be able to
>get out of some of the rivers that go into Pamlico Sound that are
>located on the South end of the Sound. You just don't have enough power
>to fight the wind and wave action. Keep that in mind. You really need to
>pay attention to the weather here.
>
>Alex Bell
>New Bern, NC
>Kizmet, IP35-170
>Blewdaze, R22
>
>Peter Thorn wrote:
>
> >Bill,
> >
> >I made the trip from Oriental to Ocracoke and back in a chartered
>Catalina
> >27 about 25 yaers ago. It can be a nice trip this time of year, but as
> >always it's very good to watch the weather. It's 50 miles of open water,
> >and if I recall correctly, tends to get very shallow near Ocracoke. If
>the
> >weather blows from the NE bad waves can develop across the entire fetch..
> >Steep, choppy short frequency waves, much worse than deep water rollers
>with
> >a long frequency that don't ever break. On the eastern side of the
>Pamlico
> >you can be out of landsight (most of the land there is pretty low) and
>have
> >these bad conditions develop -- in 5 feet of water! Way out on the ocean
> >side Cape Hatteras is called the "graveyard of the Atlantic", so a little
> >caution there would be a good thing too. I think this is mainly has to
>do
> >with the gulf stream and how Cape Hatteras sticks it's chin out in it.
> >I've never sailed out there, so can't tell you much more.
> >
> >PT
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> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:34 AM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outer Banks Sea Trials
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I'm heading out Wednesday afternoon to introduce my Rhodes to saltwater
> >>
> >>
> >for
> >
> >
> >>the first time. My plan is to put in at Oriental, NC and sail/motor
>down
> >>to Beaufrot, NC (maybe catch lunch) then head out to Cape Lookout. From
> >>Cape Lookout I hope (weather permitting) to make a run up to Ocracoke,
> >>
> >>
> >then
> >
> >
> >>sail across Pamlico Sound back to Oriental. I am really excited to
> >>
> >>
> >finally
> >
> >
> >>get my Rhodes into some big water and see how she handles in the ocean.
> >>Anyone make this trip before? Any must sees or must dos? Any advice?
> >>
> >>Bill W.
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