headsail was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re politics

Peter Thorn pthorn at nc.rr.com
Thu Aug 11 21:35:22 EDT 2005 

Good luck, Mary Lou and Fred.  May you be first at the bar!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at verizon.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:23 PM
Subject: headsail was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re politics


> No MORE headsail problems but we hope to fix the existing problem on
Saturday.
>
> We plan to lower the mast, get the furling tube (complete with forestay)
> off the boat and onto the dock, use Rummy's method for repairs (though I'm
> bring the sewing stuff just in case), get the forestay and furler back on
> the mast and get the mast raised in time to show up for happy hour at the
> sailing association's crab feast. Wish us luck.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
> At 11:31 AM 8/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> >Stan, you're killing me.
> >
> >I'd love to see more traffic too, but not at the expense of being
> >subjected to a bunch of pro-Bush bologna.
> >
> >Anyone having any more headsail problems?
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  stan
> >Date:  8/11/05 11:12
> >To:  The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subj:  [Rhodes22-list] Re politics
> >
> >     it's the summer doldrums and time to stir the pot a bit.
> >
> >if there are any believers left out there who still feel our commander in
> >chief, with his mission accomplished and shock and awe slogan weaponry
and
> >his solution to oils' problem of what to do with all the profits they are
> >awash with, is to give them even more energy bill money, should keep
their
> >eyes on the stock market from this point on.
> >
> >stan/ec
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:43 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
> >
> >
> > >I use stackable plastic shelves with an upturned front which helps to
hold
> > >things in place... 3 of them stacked fit nicely under the counter.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of a source for the Coleman ice box shelves and ice
> > > holder, I'd like to know.
> > >
> > > Saroj
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
> > >
> > >
> > >> Julia, I always wanted some shelves or cubbies under the counter to
hold
> > >> my stuff.  I currently have a big rubbermaid tub with everything
dumped
> > >> in it.  Whatever you come up with keep the materials light, plastic
is
> > >> your best bet if you can find something that will work.  Bob Weber
> > >>
> > >>>From: Julia Guzman <trpclwife at yahoo.com>
> > >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
> > >>>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:57:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > >>>
> > >>>I am Luis' wife. Paradise - our Rhodes Continental -
> > >>>is just what I needed to become fully addicted to
> > >>>sailing. It has always been a dream of mine, and at
> > >>>this point I am happier on the water than almost
> > >>>anywhere else. When we entered the first regatta I
> > >>>scorned all that competitive stuff. During the last
> > >>>one, I was extremely thrilled when we passed another
> > >>>boat. I can't wait to take first place.
> > >>>
> > >>>Luis has put in many hours on the functionality of
> > >>>Paradise and done a lot of research. He's also been
> > >>>lucky enough to get the help of a great group of
> > >>>friends from the neighborhood club. Even though I
> > >>>sometimes call it an obsession, I know he's done a
> > >>>great job and I am proud of his handy work.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now it's my turn - I spent my Sunday afternoon working
> > >>>on the interior, as that is my end of the project. And
> > >>>talking to the other Rhodes owner in the slip next to
> > >>>ours. Paradise does need work, but it's fun! I'll be
> > >>>sure and take plenty of pictures as I come up with my
> > >>>own ways to "improvise," as Stan puts it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Anyway, I get a lot out of reading the tips and tricks
> > >>>from other owners, and also from the pictures.
> > >>>Anything regarding "improvised" interiors will be
> > >>>welcomed information.
> > >>>
> > >>>Like my husband said - it does take a lot of
> > >>>motivation. But, it sure is worth it!
> > >>>
> > >>>~ Julia Guzman
> > >>>
> > >>>--- Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Peter,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I have a slip at the Bayshore Gardens' Marina.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I am aware of the Sarasota Sailing Squadron as I
> > >>> > have friends who keep their boats there.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I have a pretty good deal on a slip ( less that
> > >>> > $500/year) that is very close to my home and has dry
> > >>> > docks for working on the boat.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The neighborhood's Yacht Club is always organizing
> > >>> > all kind of events including regattas and overnight
> > >>> > trips.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We started participating in the regattas and after a
> > >>> > couple of tries (We had technical difficulties and
> > >>> > had to drop out 2 times), we were given a generous
> > >>> > PHRF of 399.  We placed fourth in the last regatta
> > >>> > and we were 4 minutes behind the first place boat.
> > >>> > Later we found out that we had been 7 minutes late
> > >>> > to cross the starting line.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We'll do a lot better next time.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I agree 100% percent with you. Restoring a boat
> > >>> > requires a lot of motivation.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>> > Luis,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Nice pictures! The picture of your boat going to
> > >>> > windward on a loose reach
> > >>> > is very similar to a 25 year old photo I have of my
> > >>> > father sailing his
> > >>> > Rhodes Continental. His boat even had the same bow
> > >>> > mounted port light.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > For the last 20 years of his life, Sarasota Bay was
> > >>> > his sailing waters.
> > >>> > It's a great place to sail and we sailed out the
> > >>> > pass (FL word for inlet)
> > >>> > and around the island many times. If you don't
> > >>> > already keep your boat at
> > >>> > the Sarasota Sailing Squadron, perhaps you would
> > >>> > want to check it out. It's
> > >>> > subsidized by the city, so the fees are reasonable
> > >>> > and it's a great club.
> > >>> > >From the SSS, my father met old men like himself
> > >>> > and organized sailing trips
> > >>> > to the Everglades and back, a distance of 500 miles
> > >>> > by water.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > For the record, it is my belief that motivation
> > >>> > trumps experience when it
> > >>> > comes to fixer-upper boats. The people on this list,
> > >>> > as Stan says, are
> > >>> > pretty smart. Many can learn how. If one wants to
> > >>> > find out how to fix up
> > >>> > an old boat, there is plenty of info and help
> > >>> > available here, the R22 FAQ
> > >>> > site, the archives and the www in general. It's only
> > >>> > when the motivation
> > >>> > wanes that a project boat slows.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > In my case, I gave up on my project boat when I
> > >>> > realized it was cheaper to
> > >>> > buy Raven than to fix up Phoenix to the level of
> > >>> > Raven. But not all older
> > >>> > boats need to be fully renovated to give years of
> > >>> > joy and sailing pleasure
> > >>> > to their owners. I expect sooner or later I will
> > >>> > enjoy putting Phoenix
> > >>> > together again. After, even working on a boat is
> > >>> > still "messing around".
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kudos to you for getting out on the water in one
> > >>> > season.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > PT
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > From: "Luis Guzman"
> > >>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > >>> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:02 AM
> > >>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water,
> > >>> > please help
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Alan,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I own a 1975 Rhodes Continental. This has been a
> > >>> > project boat that needed
> > >>> > some repair.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I did not know anything about boat repairs when I
> > >>> > took on the project, but
> > >>> > with help from the the list and other experienced
> > >>> > sailors I have gotten it
> > >>> > to the point that I can sail it. I still need to do
> > >>> > some work on the cabin,
> > >>> > but that can wait for now.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I had to build a new rudder head, put a new tiller
> > >>> > (it was missing),
> > >>> > install a new centerboard (it was also missing),
> > >>> > replace the stays, fix
> > >>> > leaky ports, replace both winches, and give it a
> > >>> > bottom job (I paid somebody
> > >>> > else to do this).
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > If you are a little bit handy and are willing to
> > >>> > learn, you can fix your
> > >>> > Rhodes.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Enclosed are pictures of my Rhodes taken last
> > >>> > Saturday on the Sarasota
> > >>> > Bay.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I'm the one sitting on the starboard side, my wife
> > >>> > Julia is in the
> > >>> > background, and my 12 year old is the one fishing
> > >>> > from the stern.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Luis Guzman
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Bill Effros wrote:
> > >>> > > Alan,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > The posts you are getting from the most
> > >>> > experienced members of this list
> > >>> > > are trying to tell you that you are way out of
> > >>> > your depth on this project.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > You will not be on the water by your projected
> > >>> > date.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > The project will cost you far more than you
> > >>> > anticipate.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > The boat will not sail properly.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >From many of your questions, it would appear
> > >>> > there will be profound
> > >>> > > safety issues.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I would join the voices of those who recommend
> > >>> > spending $250 on a used
> > >>> > > Sunfish and getting out on the water next week.
> > >>> > Sailing a Sunfish is
> > >>> > > much more fun than rebuilding a Rhodes. In fact,
> > >>> > Sailing a Sunfish can
> > >>> > > be more fun than Sailing a Rhodes if you've never
> > >>> > done either one before.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > If you have your heart set on owning a Rhodes (and
> > >>> > I gather the choice
> > >>> > > was merely an opportunistic fluke) then buy one of
> > >>> > the sailing used
> > >>> > > ones. Someone offered a $5,000 boat that looked
> > >>> > like a great deal for
> > >>> > > someone like you. Borrow the money. Spend the same
> > >>> > amount of time
> > >>> > > working in a Burger King as you would have to
> > >>> > spend working on your
> > >>> > > Rhodes to pay off your loan. Start sailing next
> > >>> > weekend. If you decide
> > >>> > > you want to punt, you will be able to sell the
> > >>> > Rhodes for virtually the
> > >>> > > same amount you paid for it.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > This is the same advice given by Michael, Ed, and
> > >>> > others. Many of the
> > >>> > > people supporting your efforts have vastly more
> > >>> > experience than you. It
> > >>> > > is taking all of them longer, and costing them
> > >>> > more money than they had
> > >>> > > anticipated.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Bill Effros
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > sugargroveumc at bright.net wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >Micheal ,
> > >>> > > >I do not think that youare bad guy for stating
> > >>> > your opinion.
> > >>> > > >The previous owner assures me that ll of the
> > >>> > hardware is there ant seems
> > >>> > to be in good shape. My friend, who is decent
> > >>> > sailor, asures me that
> > >>> > everything is there and that the work is 90 percent
> > >>> > cosmetic. So we will see
> > >>> > what we will see.
> > >>> > > >Alan
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>=== message truncated ===
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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