[Rhodes22-list] Level on Board Puzzle

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Fri Aug 12 14:38:38 EDT 2005


Mt. Gay is rum.

ed kroposki wrote:

>Mark,
>	Actually it is a puzzle, is he listing port or is he listing
>starboard?
>Ed K 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kaynor
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:14 PM
>To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Level on Board
>
>Or is it simply a cover up for the "list"? 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:18 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Level on Board
>
>Bill,
>       Is this theory really on the level?
>Chris G
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>To: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
>list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Level on Board
>
>
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>>Art,
>>
>>Thanks for providing the paragraph I deleted.  I didn't want my work to
>>be taken too lightly.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>
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>>>Bill,
>>>According to your calculations, and assuming that Mount Gay Rum weighs in
>>>      
>>>
>at 6 lbs. per gallon, wouldn't it be wise to add a few gallons to your
>manifest for your passengers to enjoy, as you will be shifting their weight
>and balance to and fro in order to adjust the boat attitude.  Now, as the
>Mount Gay is consumed, you will also be adjusting the passenger attitude.
>Also consider how nimble they will become after a few rounds and a few
>shifts... Sounds like unstable equilibrium to me.  This could be just as
>hazardous as a half-filled water ballast tank on the MacGregor.  Will you be
>posting pictures after you get back to port?
>  
>
>>>Have fun,
>>>Art
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>Sent: Aug 12, 2005 8:44 AM
>>>To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Level on Board
>>>
>>>For $3.69 I bought a 6 inch level at a job lot outlet, and brought it
>>>out to the harsh marine environment.  The data yielded so far by the
>>>instrument have been interesting.
>>>
>>>Water weighs roughly 8 lbs. per gallon.  Gas weighs roughly 6 lbs. per
>>>gallon.
>>>
>>>I carry 2 3-gallon gas tanks under the port seat -- 36 pounds when full.
>>>
>>>My fresh water tank is 15 gallons (I think) but overflows when heeling
>>>when full, so I try to keep it less than full.  Maximum Weight 120
>>>pounds on starboard side.
>>>
>>>My waste tank is ... 10 gallons?  80 pounds maximum on port side.
>>>
>>>I generally carry 2 2 1/2-gallon portable water tanks under the cockpit
>>>seats--40 lbs.
>>>
>>>I leave some water in my bilge.
>>>
>>>All of these fluids are constantly changing.
>>>
>>>So I've got roughly 250 pounds (effective maximum) down to an effective
>>>minimum of roughly 100 pounds of fluids on board most of the time.
>>>
>>>Remember that moving 100 pounds of anything from the low side to the
>>>high side has the same effect on the boat as a 200 pound person sitting
>>>on the high side.
>>>
>>>Placing the level on the companionway entrance, both port to starboard
>>>and bow to stern, I find I can easily balance the boat in both
>>>directions with me standing or sitting near the companionway.  I wish my
>>>house was as level as I can make the boat.
>>>
>>>The "lines" on the exterior of the boat are not level.  They make it
>>>appear the boat is bow heavy when it is actually level.
>>>
>>>As soon as I and the boat start moving, everything changes.  I move my
>>>level to a position in the cockpit near me to see how I am doing.
>>>
>>>I start from a roughly level boat by moving things around.  Once sailing
>>>I can keep the boat roughly level by altering the balance of the sails.
>>>
>>>I find I can gain at least 1/2 knot in boat speed by keeping the boat
>>>roughly level.  Upright the boat doesn't "feel" as fast as when it is
>>>heeled and there is a lot of pressure--but you go faster.  Moving sails
>>>in (IMF and Roller Furling) also will speed up the boat if you keep it
>>>balanced.  (I know this is counter-intuitive, but try it.  You will be
>>>surprised.  Reduce sail for better balance, go faster.)
>>>
>>>Since I start with a balanced boat, it is fairly easy to keep it
>>>balanced all the time.  I will be taking people out with me this
>>>weekend, and I will ask them to move around in the boat trying to keep
>>>it balanced.   I'm sure we'll go faster, and there will be fewer
>>>unexpected "wind shifts" if they help to keep the boat balanced.
>>>
>>>I'll let you know how it goes.
>>>
>>>Bill Effros
>>>
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