headsail was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re politics

Ellner ellner at pressenter.com
Fri Aug 12 19:19:49 EDT 2005 

Mary Lou and Fred:  We'll be thinking of you on Saturday & hoping that 
you'll be first in line at the bar @ happy hour (one way or the 
other!!)  Mary & Rod/ Toy BlueAt 08:23 PM 8/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>No MORE headsail problems but we hope to fix the existing problem on Saturday.
>
>We plan to lower the mast, get the furling tube (complete with forestay) 
>off the boat and onto the dock, use Rummy's method for repairs (though I'm 
>bring the sewing stuff just in case), get the forestay and furler back on 
>the mast and get the mast raised in time to show up for happy hour at the 
>sailing association's crab feast. Wish us luck.
>
>Mary Lou
>1991 R22 Fretless
>Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
>At 11:31 AM 8/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>Stan, you're killing me.
>>
>>I'd love to see more traffic too, but not at the expense of being 
>>subjected to a bunch of pro-Bush bologna.
>>
>>Anyone having any more headsail problems?
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:  stan
>>Date:  8/11/05 11:12
>>To:  The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Subj:  [Rhodes22-list] Re politics
>>
>>     it's the summer doldrums and time to stir the pot a bit.
>>
>>if there are any believers left out there who still feel our commander in
>>chief, with his mission accomplished and shock and awe slogan weaponry and
>>his solution to oils' problem of what to do with all the profits they are
>>awash with, is to give them even more energy bill money, should keep their
>>eyes on the stock market from this point on.
>>
>>stan/ec
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
>>
>>
>> >I use stackable plastic shelves with an upturned front which helps to hold
>> >things in place... 3 of them stacked fit nicely under the counter.
>> >
>> > If anyone knows of a source for the Coleman ice box shelves and ice
>> > holder, I'd like to know.
>> >
>> > Saroj
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:35 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
>> >
>> >
>> >> Julia, I always wanted some shelves or cubbies under the counter to hold
>> >> my stuff.  I currently have a big rubbermaid tub with everything dumped
>> >> in it.  Whatever you come up with keep the materials light, plastic is
>> >> your best bet if you can find something that will work.  Bob Weber
>> >>
>> >>>From: Julia Guzman <trpclwife at yahoo.com>
>> >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
>> >>>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:57:24 -0700 (PDT)
>> >>>
>> >>>I am Luis' wife. Paradise - our Rhodes Continental -
>> >>>is just what I needed to become fully addicted to
>> >>>sailing. It has always been a dream of mine, and at
>> >>>this point I am happier on the water than almost
>> >>>anywhere else. When we entered the first regatta I
>> >>>scorned all that competitive stuff. During the last
>> >>>one, I was extremely thrilled when we passed another
>> >>>boat. I can't wait to take first place.
>> >>>
>> >>>Luis has put in many hours on the functionality of
>> >>>Paradise and done a lot of research. He's also been
>> >>>lucky enough to get the help of a great group of
>> >>>friends from the neighborhood club. Even though I
>> >>>sometimes call it an obsession, I know he's done a
>> >>>great job and I am proud of his handy work.
>> >>>
>> >>>Now it's my turn - I spent my Sunday afternoon working
>> >>>on the interior, as that is my end of the project. And
>> >>>talking to the other Rhodes owner in the slip next to
>> >>>ours. Paradise does need work, but it's fun! I'll be
>> >>>sure and take plenty of pictures as I come up with my
>> >>>own ways to "improvise," as Stan puts it.
>> >>>
>> >>>Anyway, I get a lot out of reading the tips and tricks
>> >>>from other owners, and also from the pictures.
>> >>>Anything regarding "improvised" interiors will be
>> >>>welcomed information.
>> >>>
>> >>>Like my husband said - it does take a lot of
>> >>>motivation. But, it sure is worth it!
>> >>>
>> >>>~ Julia Guzman
>> >>>
>> >>>--- Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Peter,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I have a slip at the Bayshore Gardens' Marina.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I am aware of the Sarasota Sailing Squadron as I
>> >>> > have friends who keep their boats there.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I have a pretty good deal on a slip ( less that
>> >>> > $500/year) that is very close to my home and has dry
>> >>> > docks for working on the boat.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The neighborhood's Yacht Club is always organizing
>> >>> > all kind of events including regattas and overnight
>> >>> > trips.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We started participating in the regattas and after a
>> >>> > couple of tries (We had technical difficulties and
>> >>> > had to drop out 2 times), we were given a generous
>> >>> > PHRF of 399.  We placed fourth in the last regatta
>> >>> > and we were 4 minutes behind the first place boat.
>> >>> > Later we found out that we had been 7 minutes late
>> >>> > to cross the starting line.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We'll do a lot better next time.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I agree 100% percent with you. Restoring a boat
>> >>> > requires a lot of motivation.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Luis,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Nice pictures! The picture of your boat going to
>> >>> > windward on a loose reach
>> >>> > is very similar to a 25 year old photo I have of my
>> >>> > father sailing his
>> >>> > Rhodes Continental. His boat even had the same bow
>> >>> > mounted port light.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > For the last 20 years of his life, Sarasota Bay was
>> >>> > his sailing waters.
>> >>> > It's a great place to sail and we sailed out the
>> >>> > pass (FL word for inlet)
>> >>> > and around the island many times. If you don't
>> >>> > already keep your boat at
>> >>> > the Sarasota Sailing Squadron, perhaps you would
>> >>> > want to check it out. It's
>> >>> > subsidized by the city, so the fees are reasonable
>> >>> > and it's a great club.
>> >>> > >From the SSS, my father met old men like himself
>> >>> > and organized sailing trips
>> >>> > to the Everglades and back, a distance of 500 miles
>> >>> > by water.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > For the record, it is my belief that motivation
>> >>> > trumps experience when it
>> >>> > comes to fixer-upper boats. The people on this list,
>> >>> > as Stan says, are
>> >>> > pretty smart. Many can learn how. If one wants to
>> >>> > find out how to fix up
>> >>> > an old boat, there is plenty of info and help
>> >>> > available here, the R22 FAQ
>> >>> > site, the archives and the www in general. It's only
>> >>> > when the motivation
>> >>> > wanes that a project boat slows.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > In my case, I gave up on my project boat when I
>> >>> > realized it was cheaper to
>> >>> > buy Raven than to fix up Phoenix to the level of
>> >>> > Raven. But not all older
>> >>> > boats need to be fully renovated to give years of
>> >>> > joy and sailing pleasure
>> >>> > to their owners. I expect sooner or later I will
>> >>> > enjoy putting Phoenix
>> >>> > together again. After, even working on a boat is
>> >>> > still "messing around".
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kudos to you for getting out on the water in one
>> >>> > season.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > PT
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> > From: "Luis Guzman"
>> >>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>> >>> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:02 AM
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water,
>> >>> > please help
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Alan,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I own a 1975 Rhodes Continental. This has been a
>> >>> > project boat that needed
>> >>> > some repair.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I did not know anything about boat repairs when I
>> >>> > took on the project, but
>> >>> > with help from the the list and other experienced
>> >>> > sailors I have gotten it
>> >>> > to the point that I can sail it. I still need to do
>> >>> > some work on the cabin,
>> >>> > but that can wait for now.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I had to build a new rudder head, put a new tiller
>> >>> > (it was missing),
>> >>> > install a new centerboard (it was also missing),
>> >>> > replace the stays, fix
>> >>> > leaky ports, replace both winches, and give it a
>> >>> > bottom job (I paid somebody
>> >>> > else to do this).
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > If you are a little bit handy and are willing to
>> >>> > learn, you can fix your
>> >>> > Rhodes.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Enclosed are pictures of my Rhodes taken last
>> >>> > Saturday on the Sarasota
>> >>> > Bay.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I'm the one sitting on the starboard side, my wife
>> >>> > Julia is in the
>> >>> > background, and my 12 year old is the one fishing
>> >>> > from the stern.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Luis Guzman
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Bill Effros wrote:
>> >>> > > Alan,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > The posts you are getting from the most
>> >>> > experienced members of this list
>> >>> > > are trying to tell you that you are way out of
>> >>> > your depth on this project.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > You will not be on the water by your projected
>> >>> > date.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > The project will cost you far more than you
>> >>> > anticipate.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > The boat will not sail properly.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > >From many of your questions, it would appear
>> >>> > there will be profound
>> >>> > > safety issues.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I would join the voices of those who recommend
>> >>> > spending $250 on a used
>> >>> > > Sunfish and getting out on the water next week.
>> >>> > Sailing a Sunfish is
>> >>> > > much more fun than rebuilding a Rhodes. In fact,
>> >>> > Sailing a Sunfish can
>> >>> > > be more fun than Sailing a Rhodes if you've never
>> >>> > done either one before.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > If you have your heart set on owning a Rhodes (and
>> >>> > I gather the choice
>> >>> > > was merely an opportunistic fluke) then buy one of
>> >>> > the sailing used
>> >>> > > ones. Someone offered a $5,000 boat that looked
>> >>> > like a great deal for
>> >>> > > someone like you. Borrow the money. Spend the same
>> >>> > amount of time
>> >>> > > working in a Burger King as you would have to
>> >>> > spend working on your
>> >>> > > Rhodes to pay off your loan. Start sailing next
>> >>> > weekend. If you decide
>> >>> > > you want to punt, you will be able to sell the
>> >>> > Rhodes for virtually the
>> >>> > > same amount you paid for it.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > This is the same advice given by Michael, Ed, and
>> >>> > others. Many of the
>> >>> > > people supporting your efforts have vastly more
>> >>> > experience than you. It
>> >>> > > is taking all of them longer, and costing them
>> >>> > more money than they had
>> >>> > > anticipated.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Bill Effros
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > sugargroveumc at bright.net wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > >Micheal ,
>> >>> > > >I do not think that youare bad guy for stating
>> >>> > your opinion.
>> >>> > > >The previous owner assures me that ll of the
>> >>> > hardware is there ant seems
>> >>> > to be in good shape. My friend, who is decent
>> >>> > sailor, asures me that
>> >>> > everything is there and that the work is 90 percent
>> >>> > cosmetic. So we will see
>> >>> > what we will see.
>> >>> > > >Alan
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>=== message truncated ===
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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