[Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?

[Bradley, David]

Hi, Bill.  I wasn't sure from the earlier mails on this whether there is
still a need to improve the boom room design and prototype it, or get
the manufacturing cost down, or both.  It seems like Stan would need to
be pretty set on the design before setting up the supplier arrangement,
and the start up costs might be significant.  I'm happy to buy whatever
it is GB is offering when the time comes, and if committing up front
helps to set up a new arrangement I'm happy to do so.

I'll be in Shanghai next week.  Can't imagine there is anything I can do
there to help, but let me know if you think of something.  I'll let you
know if I see any cool Chinese boom rooms.

Dave


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I would be interested as long as Stan is the Exclusive importer of the
products.  All the details, margins, engineering and productions are in
the
Stan & Brad realm,  Me, I just buy 'em as long it has the designer
label...Boat accessories and fashions by Stan Spitzer......(boy, talk
about
Old Navy)

Chris G
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From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:21 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?


> Brad Haslett emailed me off-list regarding our discussion of boom
rooms,
> etc. which he has been following while vacationing in China.
>
> Brad asked if anyone would have an interest in his exploring Chinese
> manufacture of Boom Rooms, Sails, Pop-Top Enclosures, Cockpit and
Cabin
> Cushions, Cockpit Fill in Boards, -- all the little stuff the Chinese
> can make for a fraction of what it costs to manufacture in the US.
>
> I have not asked Stan about this, and I don't think Brad has either,
> however it goes without saying that if Stan doesn't like the idea,
Brad
> is not going to do it.  Stan would make money on every item made in
> China, and whatever he says is his cut, that's what he'll get.  There
> will be no negotiation on this.
>
> But before he even begins the project, Brad wants to know how the
> ultimate consumers feel about this idea.  If Brad can set up
> manufacturing in China with Stan's approval, would Rhodes owners buy
the
> Chinese made products?
>
> Stan would have to provide the original patterns and specifications,
but
> that is all Stan would have to do.  Brad believes he can set up a
> reliable manufacturing operation in China that will produce any of
these
> products to Stan's satisfaction at a lower cost than Stan can get them
> produced in the US.
>
> 5 of us indicated an interest in Boom Rooms.  Me, Chris, Dave, Bruce,
> and maybe Bob.  (Did I miss anyone?)  I would be willing to be the
> guinea pig on this. How do the rest of you feel?  Bob, if we could
bring
> the price down, at what price would you be a player?
>
> What about people who want Pop Top Enclosures, or Battened IMF sails,
or
> cockpit fill in cushions?  Is there a price for these items that would
> prompt you to take money out of your pocket and put it on the table?
>
> Look at Stan's options prices on his web site
> (http://www.rhodes22.com/super_options.html).  Is there something you
> would actually buy if the price were lower?  If so, what would the
price
> have to be?
>
> Brad is returning to the US shortly, and doesn't have much time to see
> if he can set up something like this.  If you think this is a terrible
> idea, please speak up quickly so we all know where we stand.
>
> I think this is an interesting idea if Brad can actually do it.  It is
> something we can all do to put more money in Stan's pocket right away,
> while buying parts for our boats at a lower cost.  It's a win-win...if
> Brad can pull it off.
>
> Please note.  Brad is a commercial airline pilot who no longer owns a
> Rhodes 22.  There is nothing in this deal for him.  He will always
make
> more money flying an airplane than getting involved in a crazy
sailboat
> spare parts Chinese manufacturing scheme.  He just happens to be in
> China right now, saw Stan's Lament, and asked if there was anything he
> could do to help.
>
> Bill Effros
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