[Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?

[Wally Buck]

Bill, It is hard to guess what I would want to spend. You need to determine 
production and shipping costs. From there add the desired mark up. That is 
the price. I am sure GB does not want to carry large cost for inventory. I 
would suspect that prices could be quoted for different sizes. Get quotes 
for 5, 10 25, each.  I have no idea who to go to for "quotes" in China but 
it sounds like there might be folks on this list that do.

Initially I would want new cockpit cushions with fill in. Also cabin 
cushions. I am considering doing this myself. I am also getting price 
locally. One drawbck to doing them myself is the most likely will look like 
crap. Having them done locally means I can test foam and not pay shipping. 
Ordering from GB means they will fit right but I don't want standard foam. 
In the cabin I want to go with 3 inches of foam with 1 inch of memory foam 
glued on top side. I have seen cushions made this way and they are great for 
sleeping and sitting. I am still working on best foam for cockpit (with fill 
in).

Wally


>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:02:44 -0400
>
>Wally,
>
>Can you put numbers on your desires?  I mean this quite seriously.  I know 
>you use your boat, and I know you want to be fair to Stan.  At what price 
>would you buy various items from Stan?  Which items would you be most 
>interested in?  What would you be willing to pay?  You will not be held to 
>any of this--it is just part of an exercise to see if what we all want can 
>be done.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>
>Wally Buck wrote:
>
>>If you are asking me if I have a problem purchasing Chinese made boat 
>>parts from Stan ....If I place my order and send payment to Stan the 
>>source doesn't concern me too much. I would prefer to buy "USA" but I have 
>>owned many imported cars.
>>
>>You also asked if price is holding me back from purchasing boat goodies 
>>from GB. The answer is yes. I would love to have new cabin cushions, new 
>>cockpit cushions, cokcpit fill-in cushions, pop-top enclosure, bimini. The 
>>boom room really doesn't interest me. We overnight quite a bit. If it is 
>>stormy we go in cabin. If it is nice we like the view from cockpit. We 
>>also swim and fish.  I am trying to decide if I should spend the money on 
>>my R22 or perhaps sell and use the cash from all of those upgrades for 
>>.......
>>
>>I forgot, add the battened IMF to my wish  list as well.
>>
>>Wally
>>
>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>>>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:21:37 -0400
>>>
>>>Brad Haslett emailed me off-list regarding our discussion of boom rooms, 
>>>etc. which he has been following while vacationing in China.
>>>
>>>Brad asked if anyone would have an interest in his exploring Chinese 
>>>manufacture of Boom Rooms, Sails, Pop-Top Enclosures, Cockpit and Cabin 
>>>Cushions, Cockpit Fill in Boards, -- all the little stuff the Chinese can 
>>>make for a fraction of what it costs to manufacture in the US.
>>>
>>>I have not asked Stan about this, and I don't think Brad has either, 
>>>however it goes without saying that if Stan doesn't like the idea, Brad 
>>>is not going to do it.  Stan would make money on every item made in 
>>>China, and whatever he says is his cut, that's what he'll get.  There 
>>>will be no negotiation on this.
>>>
>>>But before he even begins the project, Brad wants to know how the 
>>>ultimate consumers feel about this idea.  If Brad can set up 
>>>manufacturing in China with Stan's approval, would Rhodes owners buy the 
>>>Chinese made products?
>>>
>>>Stan would have to provide the original patterns and specifications, but 
>>>that is all Stan would have to do.  Brad believes he can set up a 
>>>reliable manufacturing operation in China that will produce any of these 
>>>products to Stan's satisfaction at a lower cost than Stan can get them 
>>>produced in the US.
>>>
>>>5 of us indicated an interest in Boom Rooms.  Me, Chris, Dave, Bruce, and 
>>>maybe Bob.  (Did I miss anyone?)  I would be willing to be the guinea pig 
>>>on this. How do the rest of you feel?  Bob, if we could bring the price 
>>>down, at what price would you be a player?
>>>
>>>What about people who want Pop Top Enclosures, or Battened IMF sails, or 
>>>cockpit fill in cushions?  Is there a price for these items that would 
>>>prompt you to take money out of your pocket and put it on the table?
>>>
>>>Look at Stan's options prices on his web site 
>>>(http://www.rhodes22.com/super_options.html).  Is there something you 
>>>would actually buy if the price were lower?  If so, what would the price 
>>>have to be?
>>>
>>>Brad is returning to the US shortly, and doesn't have much time to see if 
>>>he can set up something like this.  If you think this is a terrible idea, 
>>>please speak up quickly so we all know where we stand.
>>>
>>>I think this is an interesting idea if Brad can actually do it.  It is 
>>>something we can all do to put more money in Stan's pocket right away, 
>>>while buying parts for our boats at a lower cost.  It's a win-win...if 
>>>Brad can pull it off.
>>>
>>>Please note.  Brad is a commercial airline pilot who no longer owns a 
>>>Rhodes 22.  There is nothing in this deal for him.  He will always make 
>>>more money flying an airplane than getting involved in a crazy sailboat 
>>>spare parts Chinese manufacturing scheme.  He just happens to be in China 
>>>right now, saw Stan's Lament, and asked if there was anything he could do 
>>>to help.
>>>
>>>Bill Effros
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