[Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton

stan stan at rhodes22.com
Thu Dec 8 15:16:21 EST 2005


Bill E.

busy because I am old and slow - not because lots of work

while we would like to see you we would rather see your boat
there is plenty of room at the Inn for you and your boat for as long as you 
want to hang out.
it does not have to be on a weekend - per your notice of 10/6/05 we kept 
11/8 to 11/15/05 open for you.
this time don't send us dates - just an e-mail, a few minutes before 
arrival.
always need help selling used boats (new and recycled sell themselves).

ss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton


> Stan,
>
> Glad to hear you've got lots of work.  You seem to keep quite busy for an 
> old guy.
>
> Lucky for me, as you may have heard, these boats are built quite well, and 
> an 8 year old boat doesn't need much in the way of labor.  Mainly what I 
> want to do is add stuff I didn't get the first time around.  Chances are I 
> can do most of the labor myself--I just need to know if you need to make 
> measurements or see things on my actual boat.  Also I was looking forward 
> to chewing the fat with you.
>
> Do you need to see my boat to order me a Boom Room?  Do you need my boat 
> to install a boom room?  It seems several others have the same questions. 
> If we front you the money for several boom rooms can we lower the price?
>
> Also I want a new battened sail, and a new IMF mast.  I assume the least 
> expensive way to pick up the mast is at the factory, unless it's made 
> somewhere along my route, and I can pick it up en route. (Sorry, Ed.)
>
> Also I want your advice on numerous technical matters.  I have the plastic 
> gudgeons, and have worked out how to refit the holes so they don't wear. 
> Should I replace them with metal gudgeons anyhow?
> Plumbing suggestions for installed heads with no plumbed input.
> Feasibility study on mounting an auto tiller on a motorized motor mount.
>
> Deck/Mast electrical hardware recommendations.
>
> Chart Table/Bat Wing feasibility study.
>
> Pedestal envy.
>
> Cordage replacement.
>
> Water gauge considerations.
>
> Latest Mast Hoist refinements.
>
> Port settee repair or replacement advice.
>
> Shorties -- Tiller/Mast/Pedestal/Trailer
>
> Hatch arm replacement part.
>
> Latest pintel configuration.
>
> There's more.  At some point it seemed like it would take less time to 
> talk face to face than to try to hash it all out via email or telephone. 
> No offense intended, but record keeping does not seem to be your strongest 
> suit.  I was planning to arrive on a Friday so we could spend time over a 
> weekend without interrupting your labor team.  I speak no Spanish, and can 
> communicate only in English...badly.
>
> Is there space in your boatyard?
>
> Need help selling used boats?
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> stan wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> You are always welcome to make a pit stop at GB on the way down and even 
>> to spend the night at the luxurious GB plant guest apartment but
>> There is no way we could get to do any work on your boat this late in the 
>> building season.  Nell cancelled because we were taking too long..
>>
>> If you survive your southern adventures, leave it here on the way back 
>> north - by then it may really need a make over.
>>
>> stan/gbi
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton
>>
>>
>>> Slim,
>>>
>>> I'm disappointed about the cards.  I already know you don't do windows.
>>>
>>> As oft threatened, I'm going to recycle my own boat this year.  That's 
>>> why I'm taking it down to Edenton.
>>>
>>> There is a chance I will then take the boat down to Florida.  (There is 
>>> always that chance, however the boat will be closer to Florida...) 
>>> Chris's Baja adventure has been an inspiration.
>>>
>>> My wife has actually given the go-ahead on this one, now it's just a 
>>> question of whether I will be able to get my shit together.
>>>
>>> I am thinking in terms of renting a house on the water in the 
>>> Keys--possibly a house on an island--and using the boat from the house. 
>>> Many friends have shown an interest in this idea.
>>>
>>> We have a good friend who lives in Coconut Grove, within walking 
>>> distance of Dinner Key marina which offers transient slips, a ramp, and 
>>> a hoist for dry sailors.  They also have a 1960s Key West Style funky 
>>> bar on the water where you can sit all day and just be happy to be 
>>> alive--and warm.  Our friend expects us this winter.  There's plenty of 
>>> good sailing in Biscayne bay.  There are live-aboards who give the whole 
>>> place a 1960s feeling. It's an uncommercial time-warp.
>>>
>>> (Brad would be comfortable at Dinner Key -- It was built for Pan-Am when 
>>> they flew amphibious planes ("Flying Boats") all over the Americas.)
>>>
>>> I've been tracking the suggested routes (thanks to all, and keep them 
>>> coming) on my new mapping program.  I am seriously considering going 
>>> down one way, and coming back another.  Then I've got to make the round 
>>> trip again.  I am comparing the routes on the new program which is a 
>>> substantial software improvement, not to mention the improved 
>>> cartography. I find I get a lot of use out of mapping programs.  I will 
>>> report back both on mapping program results and actual results.  All 
>>> routes will be considered, and all reasons for taking different routes 
>>> will be factored in.
>>>
>>> If I do the Edenton to Florida run, I'll go through this exercise again. 
>>> And since I'll be so close to Rummy, Ed, and others...how could I just 
>>> pass by without saying hello?
>>>
>>> Russ, thanks for all the follow ups.  Thanks, also to everyone else who 
>>> has responded, and all the back-channel suggestions.  I drive a lot, and 
>>> I enjoy driving, so I know I prefer to know exactly where I'm going 
>>> before I start, and not to start improvising at 60 miles an hour while 
>>> towing a 3500 lb boat.
>>>
>>> It doesn't take a lot of time to work out all the suggested routes while 
>>> I'm sitting in front of my computer.  Thanks again for all the 
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>> Slim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> OK, I'll bite.  Why are you taking your boat to Edenton?  Trading up? 
>>>> And
>>>> no, I don't do Christmas cards.
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/05 9:41 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all for freeing me from having to check this out in the 
>>>>> archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this question has been asked and answered many times before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am taking my boat from Greenwich to Edenton.  I just got a new 
>>>>> mapping
>>>>> program (more about that to come), but I don't like the computer
>>>>> generated route.
>>>>>
>>>>> What route would you take?
>>>>>
>>>>> What route would Elton take?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a truck large enough to safely handle the task; I am borrowing
>>>>> Bruce Greenwald's dual axle trailer, I am not nervous about towing, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> have done it before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros
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